and that's all fair and good. i dont even think your evaluation is off at all. i was just curious as to how it ever actually landed on a second. call them up and offer a third, they say first, both agree on the second or whatever have you. i think people were just confused because for the longest time it appeared you were withholding the beginning step of this equation.
- stayinthefnnet

Fair enough, as you know as a negotiator you always have a plan and it is like a game of chess hoping somebody makes a bad move. Every person on earth has a day when they can be had, some days a little weaker than normal. There are other ways to get it done. Talk regularly with the opposing gm and casually mention hey that so and so of mine is sure lighting it up, do that a few times even though it may not be true. Then when a real deal is on say something well what about so and so that you previously built up, what if I threw him in? This kind of stuff works, honestly. The power of the brain and how to manipulate is pivitol in negotiations. That is why Peter Chiarelli should be fired, he does not have it every day and can be had. The Oilers got raped for Hall and Eberle and therefore are not making the playoffs again. Hope you get my point and okay if you don't.

and that's all fair and good. i dont even think your evaluation is off at all. i was just curious as to how it ever actually landed on a second. call them up and offer a third, they say first, both agree on the second or whatever have you. i think people were just confused because for the longest time it appeared you were withholding the beginning step of this equation.
- stayinthefnnet

Fair enough, as you know as a negotiator you always have a plan and it is like a game of chess hoping somebody makes a bad move. Every person on earth has a day when they can be had, some days a little weaker than normal. There are other ways to get it done. Talk regularly with the opposing gm and casually mention hey that so and so of mine is sure lighting it up, do that a few times even though it may not be true. Then when a real deal is on say something well what about so and so that you previously built up, what if I threw him in? This kind of stuff works, honestly. The power of the brain and how to manipulate is pivitol in negotiations. That is why Peter Chiarelli should be fired, he does not have it every day and can be had. The Oilers got raped for Hall and Eberle and therefore are not making the playoffs again. Hope you get my point and okay if you don't.

All else aside, props to you! My goal is to reach a healthy 100.
- Scoob

Yes, God bless him for that. No way in hell I make it that long.

Grubauer is a RFA after this season. The Caps could re-sign him to a multi year deal this off season.

You won't get Grubauer for a 2nd round pick.
- MJL

Holtby only has one year left (I think) and will surely want a raise. If the Caps think as highly of Grubauer as joe does, they could sign him and trade Holtby. There would surely be interested parties and they keep a top-shelf goalie for no more than Holtby makes now.

You can make fun if you like but you are talking to a rare bird, someone who can look at your credit card and remember the numbers for life, someone who can remember whatever he wants to remember relating to numbers. I spend several hours daily on pro hockey. I will be 92 in July and the fact I played senior hockey into my 80's certainly means nothing but at least you know the facts.
- joegreif17

Fair enough, as you know as a negotiator you always have a plan and it is like a game of chess hoping somebody makes a bad move. Every person on earth has a day when they can be had, some days a little weaker than normal. There are other ways to get it done. Talk regularly with the opposing gm and casually mention hey that so and so of mine is sure lighting it up, do that a few times even though it may not be true. Then when a real deal is on say something well what about so and so that you previously built up, what if I threw him in? This kind of stuff works, honestly. The power of the brain and how to manipulate is pivitol in negotiations. That is why Peter Chiarelli should be fired, he does not have it every day and can be had. The Oilers got raped for Hall and Eberle and therefore are not making the playoffs again. Hope you get my point and okay if you don't.
- joegreif17

well no arguing there

Fair enough, as you know as a negotiator you always have a plan and it is like a game of chess hoping somebody makes a bad move. Every person on earth has a day when they can be had, some days a little weaker than normal. There are other ways to get it done. Talk regularly with the opposing gm and casually mention hey that so and so of mine is sure lighting it up, do that a few times even though it may not be true. Then when a real deal is on say something well what about so and so that you previously built up, what if I threw him in? This kind of stuff works, honestly. The power of the brain and how to manipulate is pivitol in negotiations. That is why Peter Chiarelli should be fired, he does not have it every day and can be had. The Oilers got raped for Hall and Eberle and therefore are not making the playoffs again. Hope you get my point and okay if you don't.
- joegreif17

I knew you were a Jedi!. So the GM of the other team isn't going to know whether that player of yours is actually lighting it up?

- Giroux_Is_God

The only Pierre I'd trust in a bath tub.

I have some questions. What are the yearly dues for your cult? Do you have to go to meetings? Any free gifts involved?
- MJL

45 percent of everything you own up front

we grow our own food and every now and then we have official meetings in the tall grass

basically the idea is to live a hedonistic lifestyle

we all sit on the floor and there are no chairs but sometimes i can sit in chairs

also no one can be taller than me. if you're taller you kinda have to bend down when i'm around

you get full access to the cum coffin and our 80's movie collection

You can make fun if you like but you are talking to a rare bird, someone who can look at your credit card and remember the numbers for life, someone who can remember whatever he wants to remember relating to numbers. I spend several hours daily on pro hockey. I will be 92 in July and the fact I played senior hockey into my 80's certainly means nothing but at least you know the facts.
- joegreif17

wow, hoping my knees make it to 60, 80 gives me hope, TU

but remember, all that matters is now

once you pay it's in the past

Holtby only has one year left (I think) and will surely want a raise. If the Caps think as highly of Grubauer as joe does, they could sign him and trade Holtby. There would surely be interested parties and they keep a top-shelf goalie for no more than Holtby makes now.
- Scoob

Holtby has two years left after this season on his current deal.

45 percent of everything you own up front

we grow our own food and every now and then we have official meetings in the tall grass

basically the idea is to live a hedonistic lifestyle

we all sit on the floor and there are no chairs but sometimes i can sit in chairs

also no one can be taller than me. if you're taller you kinda have to bend down when i'm around

you get full access to the cum coffin and our 80's movie collection
- Mordecai

is the food organic?

Grubauer is a RFA after this season. The Caps could re-sign him to a multi year deal this off season.

You won't get Grubauer for a 2nd round pick.
- MJL

You asked what I would offer. I did not ask for your as usual dumb reply. If they resigned Grubauer (and they might) it would mean Holtby or elite prospect Samsonov will be on the move. In time they can only protect two of them and Grubauer is not signing for peanuts and that likely means he is tradeable. Starting point would be a second you dumb ass, jesus you are stupid.

45 percent of everything you own up front

we grow our own food and every now and then we have official meetings in the tall grass

basically the idea is to live a hedonistic lifestyle

we all sit on the floor and there are no chairs but sometimes i can sit in chairs

also no one can be taller than me. if you're taller you kinda have to bend down when i'm around

you get full access to the cum coffin and our 80's movie collection
- Mordecai

We should plan a HB'ers trip to Hedonism.

45 percent of everything you own up front

we grow our own food and every now and then we have official meetings in the tall grass

basically the idea is to live a hedonistic lifestyle

we all sit on the floor and there are no chairs but sometimes i can sit in chairs

also no one can be taller than me. if you're taller you kinda have to bend down when i'm around

you get full access to the cum coffin and our 80's movie collection
- Mordecai

Sounds reasonable.

Holtby has two years left after this season on his current deal.
- MJL

man 2 years, this might be the window where they can trade him

is the food organic?
- wcorvette

yes of course

BiggE

tell me you are following along.

You asked what I would offer. I did not ask for your as usual dumb reply. If they resigned Grubauer (and they might) it would mean Holtby or elite prospect Samsonov will be on the move. In time they can only protect two of them and Grubauer is not signing for peanuts and that likely means he is tradeable. Starting point would be a second you dumb ass, jesus you are stupid.
- joegreif17

After you state what you would offer, the conversation can move forward. I don't think the Caps would trade Grubauer for a 2nd. That is a reasonable statement in reply to your stated offer.

Starting point would be a second you dumb ass, jesus you are stupid.
- joegreif17

This is sort of weak on your part..Honestly..
Go Fantasy GM some place else..
MJL is here everyday, not everyone has to like his view point but I dont see him running around calling people dumb and stupid.

man 2 years, this might be the window where they can trade him
- wcorvette

It would make sense. Holtby is really good but if they're high on Grubauer and can find a market for Holtby, they could sign Grubauer to a cheaper deal and get some cap flexibility.

It would make sense. Holtby is really good but if they're high on Grubauer and can find a market for Holtby, they could sign Grubauer to a cheaper deal and get some cap flexibility.
- MJL

question-

should the Flyers kick those tires....


2 years runs right into HART time

You asked what I would offer. I did not ask for your as usual dumb reply. If they resigned Grubauer (and they might) it would mean Holtby or elite prospect Samsonov will be on the move. In time they can only protect two of them and Grubauer is not signing for peanuts and that likely means he is tradeable. Starting point would be a second you dumb ass, jesus you are stupid.
- joegreif17

You're crossing the line, sir.

Holtby only has one year left (I think) and will surely want a raise. If the Caps think as highly of Grubauer as joe does, they could sign him and trade Holtby. There would surely be interested parties and they keep a top-shelf goalie for no more than Holtby makes now.
- Scoob

If I were the Caps I would entertain offers on Holtby, make Grubauer the starter to be challenged by the elite prospect Samsonov. Save a ton of money short term. Also check it out that Grubauer has clearly outplayed Holtby by a mile in the second half of this season. Holtby has a fine record but only because of the team in front. Holtby choked in the playoffs last year. There was actually a debate on who should start in the playoffs for the Caps this year. Holtby will I am sure the the leash is short and Grubauer baby will be ready.