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nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Apr 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
How do you know this?
- Marc D


outside of Hakstol and Hagg saying it?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
How do you know this?
- Marc D

I don't know it at all, but he had been practicing, played in a game, has been practicing since, and isn't listed as injured. I see no reason to pretend he is healthy if he isn't. They didn't do that for Raffl. Ice time suggests he doesn't think Hagg needs to come back into the lineup as much as everyone else thinks he does. So yeah, adding it all up I suspect he is healthy
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
He's going over it with a fine-toothed comb to ensure that there are no typos.
- Scoob

bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
[quote=bulet13]hey old man no-one cares about your fantasy leagues and who you drafted so stop throwing it around like that makes you some expert on hockey
- joegreif17[/quote

Catch a bullet buddy! Show a little respect you little punk!


respect is earned not given. what part of you am i supposed to respect?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
Hakstol has said he does not like Hagg's chemistry with Gudas. those were his comments. Gudas was ridiculously bad the last game and has been for a good while. that pairing is bad. I'm not a Gudas or manning hater at all but they are BAD. I still can't wrap my head around them getting 20 mins of ice the last game as bad as they were, esp Gudas. I get the right hand shot thing but how can you continue to throw them out there? change it up
- nastyflyergirl


Coaches comments should always be taken with a grain of salt. Flyers have not and will not be forthcoming with physical issues. I don't know if that is the case or not, and if Hagg is not hindered physically he should be in the lineup in my opinion. None of that is cause to despise the coach who has done a strong job in developing the young players, and has this team positioned for a playoff spot.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:55 AM ET
outside of Hakstol and Hagg saying it?
- nastyflyergirl

I did not realize this. Bill keeps listing him as a “semi-healthy scratch”
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
I don't know it at all, but he had been practicing, played in a game, has been practicing since, and isn't listed as injured. I see no reason to pretend he is healthy if he isn't. They didn't do that for Raffl. Ice time suggests he doesn't think Hagg needs to come back into the lineup as much as everyone else thinks he does. So yeah, adding it all up I suspect he is healthy
- YuenglingJagr

Appreciate your answer, thanks.
I think he should play if healthy, although he has struggled as would be expected of a first year guy. He is an upgrade over Manning but maybe not a huge upgrade.
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 5 @ 11:58 AM ET
backread

not super happy with the lineup decisions. weal for laughton is fine but scotty should be center. not a huge fan of saddling tk with flip and simmonds. raffl has produced in the past with G but seems like a weird time to try these lines
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 12:03 PM ET
I'm finding this whole thread to be absolutely hilarious.


Another thing that amuses me: Several weeks back I snarkily asked the question (after the Flyers had lost a few games in a row) whether or not the Flyers were a borderline playoff team again. Bill took me to task over that... and yet, here we are with two games left in the season, and guess what? The Flyers are a borderline playoff team.

The reasons for this are many and varied, but it is what it is. (I hate that phrase, but sometimes...)

- Doc_Sarcasm


Yup. They aren't as good as their 13 point "cushion" and they aren't as bad as their 10-game losing streak.

They're bubbly.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 5 @ 12:04 PM ET

- YuenglingJagr


Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Apr 5 @ 12:05 PM ET
Under any scenario, I don't mind Hak returning next year. I still am not a fan, and don't believe he is the right coach once the team is a contender, but I think I can keep a relatively open mind for one more year. I think this roster is a lot better than most though, and its not like Hak doesn't have a lot to work with. Go back 3 years and its night and day. No roster is going to be perfect in this salary cap era. Maximizing what you have is on the coach.

Hak has been better this year admittedly. Last year, I would have pegged him as one of the 5 worst coaches in the NHL. This year, he's been about average, but most NHL coaches in general are bad IMO. I won't go into detail with this cause it'll piss off the dinosaurs.

I will be irate if Lappy isn't fired though. Long overdue.

- JFlyers00


I think they still have some huge holes in the lineup. I love Gost, but should he be playing top pair minutes ideally? Throughout the D they have guys playing in roles and getting minutes in key situations that shouldn’t be. The PK personnel are scary, after Couts and Provorov, they have a bunch of guys that fail to clear pucks more often than not. Read has been a notable upgrade there. After that, it drops off quickly.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Apr 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
28 14 12
54 19 93
11 51 17
21 15 24

Tonight’s lines

Laughton in, Weal out

Raffl with Couts and G
TK with Filp

- Marc D

Why can't Lehtera just sit?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think they still have some huge holes in the lineup. I love Gost, but should he be playing top pair minutes ideally? Throughout the D they have guys playing in roles and getting minutes in key situations that shouldn’t be. The PK personnel are scary, after Couts and Provorov, they have a bunch of guys that fail to clear pucks more often than not. Read has been a notable upgrade there. After that, it drops off quickly.
- Marc D


With how he's upped his defensive game this year, I think Ghost absolutely should be getting top minutes.

Agree about the defense in general, though.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Apr 5 @ 12:14 PM ET
new blob
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Apr 5 @ 12:15 PM ET
Konecny has been generating a ton of offense lately, and the top line has Giroux in consideration for the Hart and Couturier for the Selke.

Logical decision: break up the one line that's actually been producing well for us, and hope that they have chemistry when paired on other lines to "spread the wealth."

(frank)ing idiot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 5 @ 12:17 PM ET
Konecny has been generating a ton of offense lately, and the top line has Giroux in consideration for the Hart and Couturier for the Selke.

Logical decision: break up the one line that's actually been producing well for us, and hope that they have chemistry when paired on other lines to "spread the wealth."

(frank)ing idiot.

- jmatchett383


Last game the Flyers offense exploded with Konecny off of the top line. It would also help if other lines started chipping in some offense. Konecny might possibly be able to help there. Unless you think the Flyers can make a playoff run with one line.

The vitriol for this coach is absurd and the expletive you used should be applied to those sources.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Apr 5 @ 12:19 PM ET
Bill's probably too entertained by this comment thread to post another blog to be honest.
- ajw12


I waited until after the morning skate to post it.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Apr 5 @ 1:27 PM ET
I waited until after the morning skate to post it.
- bmeltzer


I figured that, I was just joking since this thread was insane
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Apr 5 @ 8:40 PM ET
Yeah but did we start the right guy?
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