I didn't watch the game last night but I'm assuming Botts was slamming doors because the team lost on fan appreciation day.

I didn't watch the game last night but I'm assuming Botts was slamming doors because the team lost on fan appreciation day.
- PrinceChill

I imagine the nacho bar was a mess.

This is the least amount of hockey i have watched since following sports.

Thanks Sabres for making me completely apathetic to what was once my favorite sport.
- ImThatGuy

are you paying for the NHL center ice package though.. yeah i am paying to not watch the games..

This is the least amount of hockey i have watched since following sports.

Thanks Sabres for making me completely apathetic to what was once my favorite sport.
- ImThatGuy

Same.

are you paying for the NHL center ice package though.. yeah i am paying to not watch the games..
- IndianaSabresFan

I am. But that ends this year. When this team puts a decent product on the ice. I'll start watching again. I've wasted so much money. Plus I can watch the Bolts play for free. That is good enough for me.

I am. But that ends this year. When this team puts a decent product on the ice. I'll start watching again. I've wasted so much money. Plus I can watch the Bolts play for free. That is good enough for me.
- burner087

[url]reddit.com/r/NHLStreams/

Just have a really good ad blocker

Where do you get your drugs?
- washedup20

following, for a friend

Here are some numbers that i think help put the year in perspective. This is a little bit of a different way of looking at it. I'm tallying cap hit against % of total points as a team. Before i really start, a few numbers that I'll use as a baseline:

For the sake of conversation, we'll call the Sabres cap number $70 million.

The Sabres scored 458 points as a team this year.

Ok, now I'll start with the Fantastic Four - Bogo, Moulson, Gorges and Pominville. The Sabres spent $19.6m on those four players, who contributed 35 points.

$19.6m represents 28% of the Sabres cap. They produced 7% of the points

This is actually a little unfair to Pominville, as he contributed 33 of those points.

So the three amigos are $14m, or 20% of the cap, and contributed .6% percent of the points.

That's not an error. .6% of the points for 20% of the cap.

Now some better news.

Eichel and Reinhart still on their entry deal, and they obviously represented good value

Ryan O'Reilly. 59p for $7.5m: That's 12% of the points for 10% of the cap.

Ristolainen: 40p for $5.4: That's 8% of the points for 7% of the cap.

Okposo: 43p for $6m: That's 9% of the points for 8.5% of the cap

Other guys:

Rodrigues: 22p for $650,000.00: That's just under 1% for 4% of the cap. Good!

Girgensons, 15p for $1.6m: That's 3% of the scoring for 2% of the cap. Not Bad!


Anyway, i thought this might be a novel way to look at where our players stack up as a percentage of the cap and a percentage of points.

My big take away is that there is currently a lot of money that isn't producing. The guys we paid big money (90, 21, 55) are producing at a slightly - slightly - higher level than their pay, but the dead money (the big 4), is wasted, and that, my friends, is why we sucked imo.

Here are some numbers that i think help put the year in perspective. This is a little bit of a different way of looking at it. I'm tallying cap hit against % of total points as a team. Before i really start, a few numbers that I'll use as a baseline:

For the sake of conversation, we'll call the Sabres cap number $70 million.

The Sabres scored 458 points as a team this year.

Ok, now I'll start with the Fantastic Four - Bogo, Moulson, Gorges and Pominville. The Sabres spent $19.6m on those four players, who contributed 35 points.

$19.6m represents 28% of the Sabres cap. They produced 7% of the points

This is actually a little unfair to Pominville, as he contributed 33 of those points.

So the three amigos are $14m, or 20% of the cap, and contributed .6% percent of the points.

That's not an error. .6% of the points for 20% of the cap.

Now some better news.

Eichel and Reinhart still on their entry deal, and they obviously represented good value

Ryan O'Reilly. 59p for $7.5m: That's 12% of the points for 10% of the cap.

Ristolainen: 40p for $5.4: That's 8% of the points for 7% of the cap.

Okposo: 43p for $6m: That's 9% of the points for 8.5% of the cap

Other guys:

Rodrigues: 22p for $650,000.00: That's just under 1% for 4% of the cap. Good!

Girgensons, 15p for $1.6m: That's 3% of the scoring for 2% of the cap. Not Bad!


Anyway, i thought this might be a novel way to look at where our players stack up as a percentage of the cap and a percentage of points.

My big take away is that there is currently a lot of money that isn't producing. The guys we paid big money (90, 21, 55) are producing at a slightly - slightly - higher level than their pay, but the dead money (the big 4), is wasted, and that, my friends, is why we sucked imo.
- jcragcrumple

Get a job and a life.

Get a job and a life.
- Hatboro_Swords

bully



we need to be much better on the ice

1.) Dahlin
2.) Tkachuk
3.) Zadina
4.) Boqvist
- 51_Killer

Where the (frank) is Svechnikov

Get a job and a life.
- Hatboro_Swords

Says one guy on HB to another.

Don't worry, I'm not sticking around. This is why i haven't posted in a week and why i probably won't for a while.

You're a (frank)ing bumhole.

Here are some numbers that i think help put the year in perspective. This is a little bit of a different way of looking at it. I'm tallying cap hit against % of total points as a team. Before i really start, a few numbers that I'll use as a baseline:

For the sake of conversation, we'll call the Sabres cap number $70 million.

The Sabres scored 458 points as a team this year.

Ok, now I'll start with the Fantastic Four - Bogo, Moulson, Gorges and Pominville. The Sabres spent $19.6m on those four players, who contributed 35 points.

$19.6m represents 28% of the Sabres cap. They produced 7% of the points

This is actually a little unfair to Pominville, as he contributed 33 of those points.

So the three amigos are $14m, or 20% of the cap, and contributed .6% percent of the points.

That's not an error. .6% of the points for 20% of the cap.

Now some better news.

Eichel and Reinhart still on their entry deal, and they obviously represented good value

Ryan O'Reilly. 59p for $7.5m: That's 12% of the points for 10% of the cap.

Ristolainen: 40p for $5.4: That's 8% of the points for 7% of the cap.

Okposo: 43p for $6m: That's 9% of the points for 8.5% of the cap

Other guys:

Rodrigues: 22p for $650,000.00: That's just under 1% for 4% of the cap. Good!

Girgensons, 15p for $1.6m: That's 3% of the scoring for 2% of the cap. Not Bad!


Anyway, i thought this might be a novel way to look at where our players stack up as a percentage of the cap and a percentage of points.

My big take away is that there is currently a lot of money that isn't producing. The guys we paid big money (90, 21, 55) are producing at a slightly - slightly - higher level than their pay, but the dead money (the big 4), is wasted, and that, my friends, is why we sucked imo.
- jcragcrumple

I think this is good work, thanks for providing it.
My only issue is that it views F and D the same for point production.
I would think some sort of normalization should b3 applied..not sure what/how but perhaps it is more points are expected from F than D...so give the D a multiplier...maybe like 25-35%, while reducing the F points by same ...I.e mu.tiply by say .7 or something.

You're a (frank)ing bumhole.
- jcragcrumple

stick around

bully



we need to be much better on the ice
- homiedclown

Those $3 soft pretzels and wieners were sweet though.

Where the (frank) is Svechnikov
- gerbe75pts

Right?

Here are some numbers that i think help put the year in perspective. This is a little bit of a different way of looking at it. I'm tallying cap hit against % of total points as a team. Before i really start, a few numbers that I'll use as a baseline:

For the sake of conversation, we'll call the Sabres cap number $70 million.

The Sabres scored 458 points as a team this year.

Ok, now I'll start with the Fantastic Four - Bogo, Moulson, Gorges and Pominville. The Sabres spent $19.6m on those four players, who contributed 35 points.

$19.6m represents 28% of the Sabres cap. They produced 7% of the points

This is actually a little unfair to Pominville, as he contributed 33 of those points.

So the three amigos are $14m, or 20% of the cap, and contributed .6% percent of the points.

That's not an error. .6% of the points for 20% of the cap.

Now some better news.

Eichel and Reinhart still on their entry deal, and they obviously represented good value

Ryan O'Reilly. 59p for $7.5m: That's 12% of the points for 10% of the cap.

Ristolainen: 40p for $5.4: That's 8% of the points for 7% of the cap.

Okposo: 43p for $6m: That's 9% of the points for 8.5% of the cap

Other guys:

Rodrigues: 22p for $650,000.00: That's just under 1% for 4% of the cap. Good!

Girgensons, 15p for $1.6m: That's 3% of the scoring for 2% of the cap. Not Bad!


Anyway, i thought this might be a novel way to look at where our players stack up as a percentage of the cap and a percentage of points.

My big take away is that there is currently a lot of money that isn't producing. The guys we paid big money (90, 21, 55) are producing at a slightly - slightly - higher level than their pay, but the dead money (the big 4), is wasted, and that, my friends, is why we sucked imo.
- jcragcrumple

I appreciate the time this must have taken.

So could we move moulson and a pick to ottawa.
What's it cost us on the cap and what is their cap ramifications?

5 million off our books?
His cap hit to Ottawa is the same?
Actual $ less though?

Wgr guys we need more Scott Wilson's on the team

Smh

Sounds like ROR thinks he might be done here


“It’s very likely, but it’s out of my control,” said O’Reilly. “I want to be here, but it is a business and when things don’t work, adjustments are made, but personally, I want to be part of it, I want to be part of the solution.”

I think this is good work, thanks for providing it.
My only issue is that it views F and D the same for point production.
I would think some sort of normalization should b3 applied..not sure what/how but perhaps it is more points are expected from F than D...so give the D a multiplier...maybe like 25-35%, while reducing the F points by same ...I.e mu.tiply by say .7 or something.
- IonSabres

Very true.

It's nowhere near a perfect system. there are obviously more variables than just scoring. Nobody is gonna say Drew Doughty should be judged by point totals alone. But it's one metric that shows that at least as a percentage of cap, our high-paid players (21, 55, 90) are contributing - as a percentage of cap - at a level that their contract justifies. Now, you could say that for that percentage of cap, you should be contributing exponentially more.


19.6 million for 35 points is abysmal, no matter how you slice it though

Where the (frank) is Svechnikov
- gerbe75pts

Really need another RW?

Sounds like ROR thinks he might be done here


“It’s very likely, but it’s out of my control,” said O’Reilly. “I want to be here, but it is a business and when things don’t work, adjustments are made, but personally, I want to be part of it, I want to be part of the solution.”
- gerbe75pts

Forgot to mention where he says he needs to be better.

Here are some numbers that i think help put the year in perspective. This is a little bit of a different way of looking at it. I'm tallying cap hit against % of total points as a team. Before i really start, a few numbers that I'll use as a baseline:

For the sake of conversation, we'll call the Sabres cap number $70 million.

The Sabres scored 458 points as a team this year.

Ok, now I'll start with the Fantastic Four - Bogo, Moulson, Gorges and Pominville. The Sabres spent $19.6m on those four players, who contributed 35 points.

$19.6m represents 28% of the Sabres cap. They produced 7% of the points

This is actually a little unfair to Pominville, as he contributed 33 of those points.

So the three amigos are $14m, or 20% of the cap, and contributed .6% percent of the points.

That's not an error. .6% of the points for 20% of the cap.

Now some better news.

Eichel and Reinhart still on their entry deal, and they obviously represented good value

Ryan O'Reilly. 59p for $7.5m: That's 12% of the points for 10% of the cap.

Ristolainen: 40p for $5.4: That's 8% of the points for 7% of the cap.

Okposo: 43p for $6m: That's 9% of the points for 8.5% of the cap

Other guys:

Rodrigues: 22p for $650,000.00: That's just under 1% for 4% of the cap. Good!

Girgensons, 15p for $1.6m: That's 3% of the scoring for 2% of the cap. Not Bad!


Anyway, i thought this might be a novel way to look at where our players stack up as a percentage of the cap and a percentage of points.

My big take away is that there is currently a lot of money that isn't producing. The guys we paid big money (90, 21, 55) are producing at a slightly - slightly - higher level than their pay, but the dead money (the big 4), is wasted, and that, my friends, is why we sucked imo.
- jcragcrumple

This is definitely a ton of maneuvering to try and prove O’Reilly is earning his pay check.

This is definitely a ton of maneuvering to try and prove O’Reilly is earning his pay check.
- sbroads24

That may have been my original hypothesis that i was trying to test. But i think it sheds a favorable light on some other players as well. My disdain for Girgensons' play is well-known, but he comes out looking pretty good.

We all know the sabres need to score more

What this particular way of looking at it tells is - in my opinion - is that the huge money tied up in the lowest-producing players is a large reason that we suck.

I imagine the nacho bar was a mess.
- Hatboro_Swords

JBotts - "It's a Situation where I was so frustated watching this team and seeing the same effort over and over, that the Taco bar was the first thing I saw and decided to take out my frustration on it"