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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
Sounds like ROR thinks he might be done here


“It’s very likely, but it’s out of my control,” said O’Reilly. “I want to be here, but it is a business and when things don’t work, adjustments are made, but personally, I want to be part of it, I want to be part of the solution.”

- gerbe75pts

but I was crazy when I said they are exploring options of moving him


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 5 @ 11:13 AM ET
ONe last thing on this:

The difference between production and pay for the big 4 is 21%

21% of 458 points is 96 points. So if we expected those players to achieve at least in line with their contracts, the Sabres would have 96 more points as a team. That would be huge
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:14 AM ET


That may have been my original hypothesis that i was trying to test. But i think it sheds a favorable light on some other players as well. My disdain for Girgensons' play is well-known, but he comes out looking pretty good.

We all know the sabres need to score more

What this particular way of looking at it tells is - in my opinion - is that the huge money tied up in the lowest-producing players is a large reason that we suck.

- jcragcrumple

I don’t disagree with that, but what I disagree with is using basic point totals and not taking ice time and other things into consideration.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:15 AM ET
but I was crazy when I said they are exploring options of moving him



- homiedclown



I used to think you were crazy...now I can see your nuts
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
I don’t disagree with that, but what I disagree with is using basic point totals and not taking ice time and other things into consideration.
- sbroads24



Like i said, in no way is this a perfect system. Just one way to look at it. Not many teams can be successful with that percentage of the cap essentially being dead.

Looking at you, 2018 Bills
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:17 AM ET
1.) Dahlin
2.) Tkachuk
3.) Zadina
4.) Boqvist

- 51_Killer



This list got me so triggered
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
Ror is a GONER

Jcrag - stick around buddy, I enjoys your input

Smoke more marijuana everybody
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:18 AM ET
Sounds like ROR thinks he might be done here


“It’s very likely, but it’s out of my control,” said O’Reilly. “I want to be here, but it is a business and when things don’t work, adjustments are made, but personally, I want to be part of it, I want to be part of the solution.”

- gerbe75pts



What is this in response to?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:20 AM ET
can someone give me the statistics on Ville Lieno jersey sales?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 5 @ 11:23 AM ET
I imagine the nacho bar was a mess.
- Hatboro_Swords



you'd think the kitchen would start to ignore JBotts constantly ordering nachos
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:23 AM ET
ONe last thing on this:

The difference between production and pay for the big 4 is 21%

21% of 458 points is 96 points. So if we expected those players to achieve at least in line with their contracts, the Sabres would have 96 more points as a team. That would be huge

- jcragcrumple

the part this doesn't show

as a team the production was pathetic


jack was jack
skunk was skunk
ror was ror


and everyone else under performed big time IMO
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:24 AM ET
I used to think you were crazy...now I can see your nuts
- washedup20

side note, picking up crazy b!tches at 1 am was always fun

as long as you went to her place not your place
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
Really need another RW?
- 51_Killer



Please list every elite RW on this team or in the system. Il wait
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
the part this doesn't show

as a team the production was pathetic


jack was jack
skunk was skunk
ror was ror


and everyone else under performed big time IMO

- homiedclown


Basically. And other than Eichel and Reinhart on the end of their deals, Erod was the only player to overproduce. So the recipe of (tons of dead money + no value contracts to offset them = terrible season) isn't all that surprising. Like someone else said, D scoring is different. But our D scoring is ATROCIOUS in general. That has to get way better
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
Like i said, in no way is this a perfect system. Just one way to look at it. Not many teams can be successful with that percentage of the cap essentially being dead.

Looking at you, 2018 Bills

- jcragcrumple

I think it’s like looking at how far someone can run, without taking into consideration how much time it takes them to do it.

O’Reilly can get to 59 points. But it’s taking him 1642 minutes to do so.

Guys who are paid similarly or even less like Scheifele and Couture are putting up those numbers or better in hundreds of less minutes.


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 5 @ 11:28 AM ET
Basically. And other than Eichel and Reinhart on the end of their deals, Erod was the only player to overproduce. So the recipe of (tons of dead money + no value contracts to offset them = terrible season) isn't all that surprising. Like someone else said, D scoring is different. But our D scoring is ATROCIOUS in general. That has to get way better
- jcragcrumple

pretty much
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:28 AM ET
Please list every elite RW on this team or in the system. Il wait
- MCGUIZZY


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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
I think it’s like looking at how far someone can run, without taking into consideration how much time it takes them to do it.

O’Reilly can get to 59 points. But it’s taking him 1642 minutes to do so.

Guys who are paid similarly or even less like Scheifele and Couture are putting up those numbers or better in hundreds of less minutes.

- sbroads24


51_Killer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buttplug, NY
Joined: 08.15.2013

Apr 5 @ 11:30 AM ET
Please list every elite RW on this team or in the system. Il wait
- MCGUIZZY


Not relevant. Go get one in free agency.

If we're not up first to pick, are we really wasting our top 4 pick on a RW?
MCGUIZZY
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bay Area, CA
Joined: 06.20.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:34 AM ET
Not relevant. Go get one in free agency.

If we're not up first to pick, are we really wasting our top 4 pick on a RW?

- 51_Killer



I cant even deal with you bro. Yet you want to draft Brady Tkachuk with 2nd overall. Do some research man
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 5 @ 11:37 AM ET
you'd think the kitchen would start to ignore JBotts constantly ordering nachos
- washedup20


You should feel more upset for the cleaning people
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 5 @ 11:40 AM ET
but I was crazy when I said they are exploring options of moving him



- homiedclown



wait ROR actually said it's very likely he's moving?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
wait ROR actually said it's very likely he's moving?
- Sabresfan-365



I'm trying to find this quote. It's not in the BN.

I'm guessing that question was: do you think there will be big changes?

A.) Very likely, bla bla blaa
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Apr 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
wait ROR actually said it's very likely he's moving?
- Sabresfan-365


Think we could get Carolina to take the bait? Or is he going to be part of a massive "sign and trade" deal attempt for JT?

I would add Karlsson in there but I really don't see the Sens trading him to Buffalo.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Apr 5 @ 11:50 AM ET
Think we could get Carolina to take the bait? Or is he going to be part of a massive "sign and trade" deal attempt for JT?

I would add Karlsson in there but I really don't see the Sens trading him to Buffalo.

- feetontheair22

I think JT is more realistic then Karlsson. But i think our odds of landing JT are less then our odds of landing Dahlin.
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