I think Pach mentioned some off ice issues with reinhart one time, but i dont think anyone has added any more to the discussion other than the fact that something was going on.
- Shadman306

fake news

So sick of listening to people on here hope and pray for a loss..
- feetontheair22

It wasn't about hoping for a loss, it's what the loss meant. It meant either mcdavid or eichel.

Now it means a better than 50% chance of not picking top 3.

I just can't wait until we finish last and 30th wins the lottery, you mother(frank)ers will never hear the end of it. Tanking for last at every cost in the current system is pointless.
- Wetbandit1

What if the difference in a player from 4th to 5th becomes night and day down the road ? You'll be singing a different tune at that point.

It wasn't about hoping for a loss, it's what the loss meant. It meant either mcdavid or eichel.

Now it means a better than 50% chance of not picking top 3.
- Sabresfan-365

I meant this season. I was 100% for it when we had the chance to get Eichel or McAutomaticHart

Shipped from where?
- chilliard77

pizza hut

I meant this season. I was 100% for it when we had the chance to get Eichel or McAutomaticHart
- feetontheair22

And now that there's a player or three that likely will be better than Eichel you're now against it ?

And now that there's a player or three that likely will be better than Eichel you're now against it ?


- fastek

Likely? 3 of them?

it's not worth it anymore. The drop is too many spots and the odds of it happening are better than half.
- Sabresfan-365

The difference between 4 and 6 or 7 is so minimal in almost every year it's so not worth it to lose at all costs.

What if the difference in a player from 4th to 5th becomes night and day down the road ? You'll be singing a different tune at that point.
- fastek

No I won't because you can't know that until then. You can say "why didn't we win more last year and finish in New Jersey's spot?" But no one's saying that, because it's absurd.

And now that there's a player or three that likely will be better than Eichel you're now against it ?


- fastek

Even if that were true (it's not by the way but what do i know), you're still looking at better odds of missing out on all 3 that picking top 3 if you finish last.

I meant this season. I was 100% for it when we had the chance to get Eichel or McAutomaticHart
- feetontheair22

This

And now that there's a player or three that likely will be better than Eichel you're now against it ?


- fastek

Ya...none of them are going to be better than Eichel.


And you can all save this post.

So sick of listening to people on here hope and pray for a loss..
- feetontheair22

How can you not hope for a loss at this point.

The season is over, the games are meaningless.

The trajectory the team will take will most likely be very very different if we pick 1-4 or 5.

Why would we not want to have the best chance at 1, and worst case we pick 4.

The party is over, why not just say screw it and steal some beers on the way out

Even if that were true (it's not by the way but what do i know), you're still looking at better odds of missing out on all 3 that picking top 3 if you finish last.
- Sabresfan-365

It is more about not picking after 4 than it is winning the lottery

Ya...none of them are going to be better than Eichel.


And you can all save this post.
- feetontheair22

it's hard to compare positions but I could see Dahlin being more valuable than Eichel.


And Svechnikov might end up scoring more goals over his career.

It is more about not picking after 4 than it is winning the lottery
- Shadman306

as wet bandit has pointed out, the difference between the option at 4 than 6 or 7 is basically a wash.

as wet bandit has pointed out, the difference between the option at 4 than 6 or 7 is basically a wash.
- Sabresfan-365

Eh, save that for 3 years from now. We have no clue.

Remember when the Jackets were nuts to take Dubois? He’s been fantastic this year

it's hard to compare positions but I could see Dahlin being more valuable than Eichel.


And Svechnikov might end up scoring more goals over his career.
- Sabresfan-365

If we get Dahlin this season was a homerun. If we get one of the wingers it was still worth it.

Eh, save that for 3 years from now. We have no clue.

Remember when the Jackets were nuts to take Dubois? He’s been fantastic this year
- sbroads24

yeah that's kinda my point though. Puljujarvi was the consensus 3 and everyone thought CBJ was nuts to take dubois "The gap is that big" they said. Could very well be the same with Zadina and Tkachuk or between tkachuk and say Whalstrom at 5.

as wet bandit has pointed out, the difference between the option at 4 than 6 or 7 is basically a wash.
- Sabresfan-365

I'm sure in some years there will be some variance, and you might miss out on a guy, but that's life, you can't guarantee anything, but in the long term, assuming they don't (frank) with the odds like crazy again it's just not worth it to sell off, or not try and win.

I'm sure in some years there will be some variance, and you might miss out on a guy, but that's life, you can't guarantee anything, but in the long term, assuming they don't (frank) with the odds like crazy again it's just not worth it to sell off, or not try and win.
- Wetbandit1

just let the chips fall where they may fall. If a lottery result is integral to your long term plan, you're a crappy GM.

yeah that's kinda my point though. Puljujarvi was the consensus 3 and everyone thought CBJ was nuts to take dubois "The gap is that big" they said. Could very well be the same with Zadina and Tkachuk or between tkachuk and say Whalstrom at 5.
- Sabresfan-365

Sorry, my point was muddled, what I meant was the teams might have these kids ranked differently. Sabres could have a guy ranked well ahead at 4-5-6 etc.

Like CM last year. Botts was ready to move up for him because he had him top 3-5

just let the chips fall where they may fall. If a lottery result is integral to your long term plan, you're a crappy GM.
- Sabresfan-365

Yep.

We already --sort of-- got our lottery result, now comes the building.

Sorry, my point was muddled, what I meant was the teams might have these kids ranked differently. Sabres could have a guy ranked well ahead at 4-5-6 etc.

Like CM last year. Botts was ready to move up for him because he had him top 3-5
- sbroads24

Yeah he tried flipping with Vancouver. But in that scenario you may end up getting a chance at pettersson, who's every bit as good as CM imo.

I agree they have them ranked differently, but I don't think the gap between them is that big, at least not this year.

Sorry, my point was muddled, what I meant was the teams might have these kids ranked differently. Sabres could have a guy ranked well ahead at 4-5-6 etc.

Like CM last year. Botts was ready to move up for him because he had him top 3-5
- sbroads24

Once you get past the top tier it's pretty much a crap shoot/need based. Like the Ryan Murray year, which was Yak and then the field, when all those D-Men went way early.

Some are really good, others are Griffin Reinhart.