Sutter in Pitt could be only a 3C & is now
EG drafted as top 2D but is a 4D
Pouliot drafted as top 4D but is a 5D

Means they are depth & we need elite talent around them. Missing top offensive 2D/3D & top 3 LW (EP) & 1C

Sutter in Pitt could be only a 3C & is now
EG drafted as top 2D but is a 4D
Pouliot drafted as top 4D but is a 5D

Means they are depth & we need elite talent around them. Missing top offensive 2D/3D & top 3 LW (EP) & 1C
- Nighthawk

Sutter was taken by Carolina and then traded for Staal when they realized that he wasnt going to be top 6 and PIT wanted a 3C

My point is, despite the promise and hype that came with these guys (and you can add Baertschi and Gagner as other former top picks/prospects), you cant rely on them reaching their ceilings. If you can keep adding more picks in exchange for cap space, then the Canucks should do so. We have seen far too many prospects bust to be confident this pool will being NHLers

I disagree with your rationale. I am very high on Lockwood, but his injury history is a concern. I am not nearly as high on Palmu, Gadjovich, and most certainly some of those I do like will not pan out anywhere near their projected ceilings.

For me, part of the failure of the Oiler and Sabre rebuilds are the lack of depth. If a key guy goes down or prospect develop as expected, they have nothing to fill in behind. The good teams have prospect pools with depth, and until we can know for certain that the ones we have will be NHLers, I think its in the best interest of the team to continue acquiring future talent.

VAN has acquired many former top prospects who were expected to play big roles on the teams that drafted them in Sutter, Gudbranson, Pouliot, etc. If we start counting our own chickens before they hatch, IMO the depth of this team will be exposed when we are hoping to be contending
- WhiteLie

Well said.👍

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Most, if not all of us, have experienced, the travel and/or worriness of these trips , whether they be through sport teams, school events, business occasions, etc.
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As for the injuries, perhaps it’s time to look at WHO’s getting injured the most and why. Time for a change of scenery for Tanev and Baertschi who I’m assuming make up a good percentage of the injuries.
- LeftCoaster

Benning also wants a big forward.
- VANTEL

Tanev and Eriksson for Lucic, a prospect and our 2019 1st (top-10 protected)

Tanev and Eriksson for Lucic, a prospect and our 2019 1st (top-10 protected)
- MaximumBone

You guys have prospects?

Sutter was taken by Carolina and then traded for Staal when they realized that he wasnt going to be top 6 and PIT wanted a 3C

My point is, despite the promise and hype that came with these guys (and you can add Baertschi and Gagner as other former top picks/prospects), you cant rely on them reaching their ceilings. If you can keep adding more picks in exchange for cap space, then the Canucks should do so. We have seen far too many prospects bust to be confident this pool will being NHLers
- WhiteLie

I hearya & agree I only add idc if we recycle those same players for good picks if JB wants to move on. He has shown to try & also to try again. Players like Sven Granlund Hutton Stecher can be trade bait.

Sutter was taken by Carolina and then traded for Staal when they realized that he wasnt going to be top 6 and PIT wanted a 3C

My point is, despite the promise and hype that came with these guys (and you can add Baertschi and Gagner as other former top picks/prospects), you cant rely on them reaching their ceilings. If you can keep adding more picks in exchange for cap space, then the Canucks should do so. We have seen far too many prospects bust to be confident this pool will being NHLers
- WhiteLie

I think Staal was traded because he was going to walk and wanted to play with his brother. Pitt thought Sutter was part of a very good package not that he was not living up to expectations.

Kovalchuk and NYR. 3 years x 6 million is what is being speculated

I disagree with your rationale. I am very high on Lockwood, but his injury history is a concern. I am not nearly as high on Palmu, Gadjovich, and most certainly some of those I do like will not pan out anywhere near their projected ceilings.

For me, part of the failure of the Oiler and Sabre rebuilds are the lack of depth. If a key guy goes down or prospect develop as expected, they have nothing to fill in behind. The good teams have prospect pools with depth, and until we can know for certain that the ones we have will be NHLers, I think its in the best interest of the team to continue acquiring future talent.

VAN has acquired many former top prospects who were expected to play big roles on the teams that drafted them in Sutter, Gudbranson, Pouliot, etc. If we start counting our own chickens before they hatch, IMO the depth of this team will be exposed when we are hoping to be contending
- WhiteLie

We already have a decent prospect pool and it will be getting stronger is what I am saying. You don't need to go bat ass crazy to get more picks. This stuff about taking on bad contracts is nuts. Why tie yourself down to get a second round pick? There will be teams cap struck that can't protect all their players like Panarin or yes even back to Erhoff. Deals like that are good not taking on Brent Seabrook for seven years for the 15 th pick

Kovalchuk and NYR. 3 years x 6 million is what is being speculated
- Codes1087

Good

Kovalchuk and NYR. 3 years x 6 million is what is being speculated
- Codes1087

EK says 2 years. They are in a rebuild if people forget. Now they are signing 35 year olds. Mixed messages. Mentoring the youth how not to play?

Kovalchuk and NYR. 3 years x 6 million is what is being speculated
- Codes1087

EK says 2 years. They are in a rebuild if people forget. Now they are signing 35 year olds. Mixed messages. Mentoring the youth how not to play?
- manvanfan

Putin wants someone to keep an eye on Trump, what better spy than a lazy, selfish and entitled hockey player?

Tanev and Eriksson for Lucic, a prospect and our 2019 1st (top-10 protected)
- MaximumBone

Did you hit a post on the way to work dreaming this crap up?

Putin wants someone to keep an eye on Trump, what better spy than a lazy, selfish and entitled hockey player?
- DariusKnight

Kovalchuk has settled his debt to the Russian mob and now he wants back in the NHL...

Sutter was taken by Carolina and then traded for Staal when they realized that he wasnt going to be top 6 and PIT wanted a 3C

My point is, despite the promise and hype that came with these guys (and you can add Baertschi and Gagner as other former top picks/prospects), you cant rely on them reaching their ceilings. If you can keep adding more picks in exchange for cap space, then the Canucks should do so. We have seen far too many prospects bust to be confident this pool will being NHLers
- WhiteLie

Every year is about the same thing for drafts. Only so many players actually make the NHL even less make an actual impact.

Ben hutton is 31st in scoring in the 2012 draft.
Baertschi is 22nd and Granlund is 30th in 2011.
Gagner is 8th in scoring in his 2007 draft. That will probably change over time.

The expectation on the players drafted is just way too high. Outside the top 15 in any draft I only expect a couple of players to be more then a top 6 forward or a top 4 dman.

Putin wants someone to keep an eye on Trump, what better spy than a lazy, selfish and entitled hockey player?
- DariusKnight

Wouldn't he have signed with the Capitals then?

Wouldn't he have signed with the Capitals then?
- manvanfan

Trump likes the Rangers, besides, Ovechkin has that covered anyways.

EK says 2 years. They are in a rebuild if people forget. Now they are signing 35 year olds. Mixed messages. Mentoring the youth how not to play?
- manvanfan

I didnt read Eks post. Igor Eronko reported it really early this morning.

Wouldn't he have signed with the Capitals then?
- manvanfan

Capitals will be the blackhawks in terms of cap hell in a few years.

I didnt read Eks post. Igor Eronko reported it really early this morning.
- Codes1087

Well no matter.

Capitals will be the blackhawks in terms of cap hell in a few years.
- Codes1087

Granlund, Pouliot, McEneny for Andre Burakovsky

and with the

Tanev to TB for Killorn, Coburn, Somppi.

Rebuild done.

I didnt read Eks post. Igor Eronko reported it really early this morning.
- Codes1087

Bizarre choice for Kovalchuk. Thought he would have gone to a contender for sure.

Bizarre choice for Kovalchuk. Thought he would have gone to a contender for sure.
- neem55

I think hes too expensive for most contenders. He wants to win, but i think he likes money more than winning.