I kind of like Okposo with Jack, but he really deserves better, and there's obviously reasons they haven't played more together.

Almost half of Kyle's points came on the PP. If a prospect doesn't bump him off next season, it's a terrible sign.

He could easily play better next year, and produce less. That might actually be a good thing. I hate paying a 3rd liner that money, but it's only for 5 more seasons....
- Lunaion

Well it seems that Sam is locked in with O’Reilly at RW2
So I’m guessing that Okposo (if healthy) would be with Jack over Pominville, who would play RW3

I don’t see any reason that Okposo can’t get back above 20goals if playing with Jack all year

Maybe that would make him movable after next season?
Or eventually a target for Seattle,
kinda how Neal was for Vegas

But if we are stuck with Okposo,
then i think he could be ok with Casey on line 3 if we do end up getting a RW in this draft
Like u said...
way too much $$$ for a RW3, but that’s where we’d be if we can’t trade him

But aren't you one of the main ones harping about how Murray got rid of the picks that could've been Boeser, Beauvillier, White, Konecny, etc...? They weren't high picks.
- Wetbandit1

yeah, i wonder how he can find more mid to late first round picks...

yeah, i wonder how he can find more mid to late first round picks...


- Sabresfan-365

It wasn't solely directed at you, just more in general to the tank crowd.

I'm fine trading ROR provided we actually get something back, not a Kane type deal for (meh)futures.

so 18.5%, hope okposo can get better with age and nikita gusev might choose to leave russia for buffalo (not like we were a great experience for antipin)

OR

we can move ROR or Ristolainen for player(s) that are a better fit moving forward


Idk, I like option B but im an idiot
- Sabresfan-365

As much as I think it’s the right thing to do, I don’t think they trade O’Reilly.

Bogosian has 12 points in 74 games over the past two years.

That’s actually worse than I thought.
- sbroads24

he's gonna be buggin you for at least another year as I really can't see them moving on from him, for obvious reasons

Bogosian has 12 points in 74 games over the past two years.

That’s actually worse than I thought.
- sbroads24

I’m all outta hope for him at this point
From what I’ve seen,
he can be effective... when he’s 100%
When he’s playing banged up,
he seems to have no confidence to carry the puck (he’s actually a pretty good skater) & play physical
And how often is he even on the ice,
let alone 100%

It’s been a pretty big disappointment

Damn you GMTM

PS. U were right
Just about him though...
i still disputed u on just about everything else!
Hahahahaha

It wasn't solely directed at you, just more in general to the tank crowd.

I'm fine trading ROR provided we actually get something back, not a Kane type deal for (meh)futures.
- Wetbandit1

if someone offered a 1st, above average prospect and maybe a roster player id take it and run.

Im not even his biggest fan, but I firmly believe Mittelstadt will eat into his ice time both at even strength and PP time and by extension his production.

Well it seems that Sam is locked in with O’Reilly at RW2
So I’m guessing that Okposo (if healthy) would be with Jack over Pominville, who would play RW3

I don’t see any reason that Okposo can’t get back above 20goals if playing with Jack all year


- jdfitz77

I understand the thought, but as much as Phil switches up lines, he doesn't do that. I'd love to hear him explain why, but there's obviously a reason. Same applies to Baptiste, but that reason is lot easier to guess at.

Laying out lines is a frivolous activity. They don't stick. It's more about who plays top 6 minutes over the long haul.

so 18.5%, hope okposo can get better with age and nikita gusev might choose to leave russia for buffalo (not like we were a great experience for antipin)

OR

we can move ROR or Ristolainen for player(s) that are a better fit moving forward


Idk, I like option B but im an idiot
- Sabresfan-365

Well it’s not like we have to make that decision NOW

Also...
depends on who we get in these trades you’d have us make
If it’s 2nd tier prospects,
don’t we already have a ton of them?
And mid-late 1sts are pretty much a crapshoot
We can’t trade these guys for a Kane-like return

Option B also wastes more years of Eichel

I’m not totally closed off to OptionB,
but i also don’t think we need to abandon Option A just year either


The Real Question is...
what does J Botts think?

Well it’s not like we have to make that decision NOW

Also...
depends on who we get in these trades you’d have us make
If it’s 2nd tier prospects,
don’t we already have a ton of them?
And mid-late 1sts are pretty much a crapshoot
We can’t trade these guys for a Kane-like return

Option B also wastes more years of Eichel

I’m not totally closed off to OptionB,
but i also don’t think we need to abandon Option A just year either


The Real Question is...
what does J Botts think?
- jdfitz77

"please god give me Dahlin so I don't have to make any of these decisions"

As much as I think it’s the right thing to do, I don’t think they trade O’Reilly.
- sbroads24

It doesn’t sound like they will

But it also sounds like there’s a ton of interest...
so maybe Botts gets an offer he just can’t refuse

I thought that about Kane too though...
so who the f#ck knows?

It doesn’t sound like they will

But it also sounds like there’s a ton of interest...
so maybe Botts gets an offer he just can’t refuse

I thought that about Kane too though...
so who the f#ck knows?
- jdfitz77

If he wanted to trade him, he'd be saying the exact same thing. I don't read anything into it.

if someone offered a 1st, above average prospect and maybe a roster player id take it and run.

Im not even his biggest fan, but I firmly believe Mittelstadt will eat into his ice time both at even strength and PP time and by extension his production.
- Sabresfan-365

How is Mitts taking RORs time on the PP?
He’d slot into Okposo’s spot before he’d take O’Reilly’s

And for that return you’d take...
i think it’s absolute garbage

If we are trading ROR,
It’s gotta be a Seth Jones for Johansen type trade
Not just getting parts that’ll end up being average
We already have plenty of that

I understand the thought, but as much as Phil switches up lines, he doesn't do that. I'd love to hear him explain why, but there's obviously a reason. Same applies to Baptiste, but that reason is lot easier to guess at.

Laying out lines is a frivolous activity. They don't stick. It's more about who plays top 6 minutes over the long haul.
- Lunaion

Too soon to assume that
Housley’s first year with these guys learning the system & trying to see who goes well with who
Looks like Sam & ROR will stay paired up

Okposo playing RW with either Jack or Casey should still be productive
The contract is more an issue for me than his play (if healthy, of course)

How is Mitts taking RORs time on the PP?
He’d slot into Okposo’s spot before he’d take O’Reilly’s

And for that return you’d take...
i think it’s absolute garbage

If we are trading ROR,
It’s gotta be a Seth Jones for Johansen type trade
Not just getting parts that’ll end up being average
We already have plenty of that
- jdfitz77

Bruh they're not even comparable lmao Johansen was making a team friendly 4 mil. ROR is making bare bonus cash right now.

and he'd take RORs because they still have okposo set up as the shooter on most of these. If you're bringing in a playmaker, you're taking one out.

"please god give me Dahlin so I don't have to make any of these decisions"
- Sabresfan-365

Well that’s certainly what I’m hoping for!
Maybe we get lucky for once

Bruh they're not even comparable lmao Johansen was making a team friendly 4 mil. ROR is making bare bonus cash right now.

and he'd take RORs because they still have okposo set up as the shooter on most of these. If you're bringing in a playmaker, you're taking one out.
- Sabresfan-365

Totally disagree
Is Okposo a better shooter than Casey?
Also, Casey can be the LH shot on the RW opposite Jack to draw ppl to that side of the ice
Knock faceoffs all u guys want...
but until Jack or Casey or Sam are winning faceoffs consistently on the PP,
then O’Reilly is not coming off that top unit

Bruh they're not even comparable lmao Johansen was making a team friendly 4 mil. ROR is making bare bonus cash right now.

and he'd take RORs because they still have okposo set up as the shooter on most of these. If you're bringing in a playmaker, you're taking one out.
- Sabresfan-365

You’re missing the point there
If we trade O’Reilly,
it needs to be for a “core” piece
as opposed to a bunch more average parts that we already have plenty of

if someone offered a 1st, above average prospect and maybe a roster player id take it and run.

Im not even his biggest fan, but I firmly believe Mittelstadt will eat into his ice time both at even strength and PP time and by extension his production.
- Sabresfan-365

Still not sure why your trading a mid 20's 61 point player?
For a prospect or 2 and a 4th liner

If he wanted to trade him, he'd be saying the exact same thing. I don't read anything into it.
- Lunaion

That’s fair
Good point

Too soon to assume that
Housley’s first year with these guys learning the system & trying to see who goes well with who
Looks like Sam & ROR will stay paired up

Okposo playing RW with either Jack or Casey should still be productive
The contract is more an issue for me than his play (if healthy, of course)
- jdfitz77

2 coaches have played them together sparingly over 2 years. It's not too soon to draw a conclusion. When Phil and Dan do the same things, there's a good reason.

You’re missing the point there
If we trade O’Reilly,
it needs to be for a “core” piece
as opposed to a bunch more average parts that we already have plenty of
- jdfitz77

Idk that boeser, konecny and co. are "average"

2 coaches have played them together sparingly over 2 years. It's not too soon to draw a conclusion. When Phil and Dan do the same things, there's a good reason.
- Lunaion

Last year,
Sam & Jack seemed to have a connection
So why would u mess with that to slot Okposo there?

And this year is pretty much a throwaway for Okposo bc of the injuries

If we don’t get a winger in this year’s draft,
do u think Pommer is with Eichel over Okposo on the RW?
I guess that’s possible
But I’d think Okposo would at least get a shot
And even if he didn’t play with Jack,
then he slots in with Casey
In which case,
I believe he can also be successful

Where do u see Okposo playing next year?
I don’t really see the point you’re trying to make

Idk that boeser, konecny and co. are "average"
- Sabresfan-365

And how many guys get picked around those spots don’t end up being squat?

For example:
Where were Grigorenko & Girgensons picked?

he says he like guhle-nelson for the third pair next year with mccabe and bogo back in the 2nd pair.

so he either plans on moving risto, or next year is already written off. I dont see how else you ice a competitive d-core.
- Sabresfan-365

JB said that, or are you going off the 31 thoughts that could very well be wrong?