Listening to Paul Romanuk announce games should be used as a torture technique


F"n brutal

Did this scout you are quoting say a prospect has never been a lock to go first overall in December? Lol
- CanuckDon

likely in response to every years articles that ask 'who will go number one?' taylor vs tyler, mcdavid or eichel, nico vs nolan, matthews or laine, etc. there isnt a debate this year (yes in some years the debates are stupid but tsn/sportsnet still does them)

but if thats all you took from my response then i can see why youre unsure if dahlin will be a star

likely in response to every years articles that ask 'who will go number one?' taylor vs tyler, mcdavid or eichel, nico vs nolan, matthews or laine, etc. there isnt a debate this year

but if thats all you took from my response then i can see why youre unsure if dahlin will be a star
- johnnykarate

No we just don’t agree. I think you have a weak argument. Anybody that declares a prospect to be a guaranteed generational player before playing in the show doesn’t know sweet (frank) all about hockey. Anyways, back to the playoffs.

No we just don’t agree. I think you have a weak argument. Anybody that declares a prospect to be a guaranteed generational player before playing in the show doesn’t know sweet (frank) all about hockey. Anyways, back to the playoffs.
- CanuckDon

If someone had said before his draft that Mcdavid was a generational talent and you told them not to count their chickens they would've laughed you out of the room. Just saying.

I understand its a different argument with Dahlin who projects as a Frachise Dman instead of a Generational one. But arguing word choice all all semantics

If someone had said before his draft that Mcdavid was a generational talent and you told them not to count their chickens they would've laughed you out of the room. Just saying.
- NorthNuck

Fair enough but Dahlin is not McDavid or Crosby. This should be pretty straight forward what I’m saying? Dahlin had a great year but I wouldn’t classify it as exceptional. I’d put him in a tier with Matthews in terms of their hype. Matthews is incredible but he isn’t generational

Fair enough but Dahlin is not McDavid or Crosby. This should be pretty straight forward what I’m saying? Dahlin had a great year but I wouldn’t classify it as exceptional. I’d put him in a tier with Matthews in terms of their hype. Matthews is incredible but he isn’t generational
- CanuckDon

Yeah i added a bit on that just after you quoted me. Franchise vs. Generational is a pretty decent gap.

No we just don’t agree. I think you have a weak argument. Anybody that declares a prospect to be a guaranteed generational player before playing in the show doesn’t know sweet (frank) all about hockey. Anyways, back to the playoffs.
- CanuckDon

i never called him generational, i said hes close. i was just shocked you dont think he will be a star... hes miles ahead of any defensive prospect in the past 20 years. its a 2" putt prediction that hell be star

Yeah i added a bit on that just after you quoted me. Franchise vs. Generational is a pretty decent gap.
- NorthNuck

Semantics I suppose. Anyways, enough ink spilled on this topic. Let’s get back to how horrible Lefty’s flyers are

i never called him generational, i said hes close. i was just shocked you dont think he will be a star... hes miles ahead of any defensive prospect in the past 20 years. its a 2" putt prediction that hell be star
- johnnykarate

I think he will be a star but nothing is guaranteed. He is more hyped than Hedman and he is one of the best. I just think people get carried away with prospects to often.

Semantics I suppose. Anyways, enough ink spilled on this topic. Let’s get back to how horrible Lefty’s flyers are
- CanuckDon

7-0. Wow. Cant just blame it on poor goaltending when you cant score.

Semantics I suppose. Anyways, enough ink spilled on this topic. Let’s get back to how horrible Lefty’s flyers are
- CanuckDon

I expected they could lose the series fairly easily but man that was a beatdown

Vegas off to a hot start. It seems on paper everything in this series goes LAs way but i wouldnt be surprised to see pure magic come from the Knights

Gordie wasnt playing, then went to WHA when i started watching hockey.
He would be a generational player for sure.
Terms like generational and superstar get thrown out to easily for many random players.
Guys like Lafleur Bossy Potvin Dryden Brodeur were all very good players, none would be generational though.
- Reubenkincade

Well some people say generational is an "every 20 years" thing. SO who is truly generational? Gretz and Mario are 5 years apart, Orr and Gretz are only 12 years apart.
There are 22 years between Mario and Sid. Does that mean there was no generational talent for more than 20 years? who bridges that gap? Since McDavid is a generational talent, does that now mean that Sid isn't?

Personally I think we should look at each decade and see who was the best. And not just as a whole but in each of the 3 positions. They are the generations best players and therefor generational talents.

Vegas off to a hot start. It seems on paper everything in this series goes LAs way but i wouldnt be surprised to see pure magic come from the Knights
- NorthNuck

I took Vegas just because I think their speed and forecheck will give LA fits. Bad matchup for LA

Well some people say generational is an "every 20 years" thing. SO who is truly generational? Gretz and Mario are 5 years apart, Orr and Gretz are only 12 years apart.
There are 22 years between Mario and Sid. Does that mean there was no generational talent for more than 20 years? who bridges that gap? Since McDavid is a generational talent, does that now mean that Sid isn't?

Personally I think we should look at each decade and see who was the best. And not just as a whole but in each of the 3 positions. They are the generations best players and therefor generational talents.
- Retinalz

I think of a generatioal talent as the star of superstars or super duperstar, of which there are very few.

I took Vegas just because I think their speed and forecheck will give LA fits. Bad matchup for LA
- CanuckDon

I pick teams against another guy every year and we pay out based on games won. He got Vegas so as much as i dont like LA im kind of hoping for the upset. Given the choice i definitely would have taken VGK though

I think of a generatioal talent as the star of superstars or super duperstar, of which there are very few.
- Reubenkincade

I found some charts online that pretty well gave each generation being a 15 year gap. 81-96, 65-80, 46-64. So many theories about it, sports are different. But each position would theoretically have a generational player. I think in his generation Dahlin will be considered the best ever. Mcdavid for his, crosby for his, karlsson for his. etc. Roy for his, Price for his. The current generation is still TBD.

Well some people say generational is an "every 20 years" thing. SO who is truly generational? Gretz and Mario are 5 years apart, Orr and Gretz are only 12 years apart.
There are 22 years between Mario and Sid. Does that mean there was no generational talent for more than 20 years? who bridges that gap? Since McDavid is a generational talent, does that now mean that Sid isn't?

Personally I think we should look at each decade and see who was the best. And not just as a whole but in each of the 3 positions. They are the generations best players and therefor generational talents.
- Retinalz

Whats to argue really... generational talents overlap typically as one is on the upswing and the other past his prime.... or in a rare case you have a couple at once because there are no laws of physics in this.

Whats to argue really... generational talents overlap typically as one is on the upswing and the other past his prime.... or in a rare case you have a couple at once because there are no laws of physics in this.

- boonerbuck

So is it then possible for a position to go 50 years without a generational talent?

So is it then possible for a position to go 50 years without a generational talent?
- Retinalz

Only if they wear Orcas on their jersey

I found some charts online that pretty well gave each generation being a 15 year gap. 81-96, 65-80, 46-64. So many theories about it, sports are different. But each position would theoretically have a generational player. I think in his generation Dahlin will be considered the best ever. Mcdavid for his, crosby for his, karlsson for his. etc. Roy for his, Price for his. The current generation is still TBD.
- Retinalz

But why do you think Dahlin will be the best in the next 15 years? High praise

So now we're arguing the word generational and even Leaf fans want in on it. you guys need to find something better to do with your time.

So is it then possible for a position to go 50 years without a generational talent?
- Retinalz

Wow, that would be some lean years and I think the bar would adjust several times like in the past when the NHL stopped seeing 50-60 goal seasons every year... so no I dont think that is possible. 20-30 years down the road the bar would be pretty low. We would be looking at global wars and economy collapses over a couple of decades for that.... not that there isnt that feeling right now with USA marching to war once again.

Wow, that would be some lean years and I think the bar would adjust several times like in the past when the NHL stopped seeing 50-60 goal seasons every year... so no I dont think that is possible. 20-30 years down the road the bar would be pretty low. We would be looking at global wars and economy collapses over a couple of decades for that.... not that there isnt that feeling right now with USA marching to war once again.
- boonerbuck

Who do you consider generational after Orr then? Just looking at defensemen? Who after Roy for goalies?

So now we're arguing the word generational and even Leaf fans want in on it. you guys need to find something better to do with your time.
- A_SteamingLombardi

If you don’t think Matthews is generational you should see your doctor for (frank)sakes