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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: Trading T.J. Brodie could make sense for the Calgary Flames
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TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:16 PM ET
Anyone suggesting we trade Hamilton is an idiot. Cue Francis.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:18 PM ET
Who are our top targets for a Brodie trade?

I'd like to have the following in no particular order:

Mark Stone
Mitch Marner
David Pastrnak

Obviously this is pie in the sky and would likely take more then just Brodie but if you could pick anyone who do you guys think would fit best?

- zipfel

Mark Stone would be the only possibility on that list. And that’s still unlikely.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:15 PM ET
Mark Stone would be the only possibility on that list. And that’s still unlikely.
- TandA4Flames


I hope so. As much as the Sens suck, Mark Stone is a very high-end winger and a great asset for us. If he gets traded, it should be for a haul of picks and/or prospects and/or good young players. Adding Brodie doesn't do much for a rebuilding team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:17 PM ET
brodie is overrated, but the issue is that he's a better player than what he showed this season so do you trade him now or wait for him to rebound next season?
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Apr 12 @ 7:29 PM ET
brodie is overrated, but the issue is that he's a better player than what he showed this season so do you trade him now or wait for him to rebound next season?
- Nucker101


He's a better player based on what? He's had the same major issues with his game for the last two seasons.

The player he was this season is the player he is.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:31 PM ET
He's a better player based on what? He's had the same major issues with his game for the last two seasons.

The player he was this season is the player he is.

- Hunkulese


if that's the case then move him this summer while some GM's might still view him as a potential top pairing dman in his prime.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:33 PM ET
Not sure what kind of return you can expect from Brodie with his "down" year
At this point, we couldn't even get back what we paid to the Isles for Hamonic

- cpltanto

People on here like to bash Brodie for his bad year. SMe was said about Hamonic last year and Snow as still able to leverage an unprotected 1st and 2 x 2nds. Brodie is still thought of quite highly amongst other GMs around the league I’m sure. No reason at all Tre couldn’t get similar or more than what Hamonic got. Brodie is all the things Todd said, can play both sides (D that can play right side are huge in this league) and is signed for 2 more years in a value contract. Guys like bunkulese don’t know what they’re talking about in this regard.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:39 PM ET
Here’s a quick list of guys I think we could look at and for 1 reason or another, may be able to entice the other team with a trade centered around Brodie. I won’t go into detail why I think for each player because it’d be too long. Also, some players may require additional assets from either side.

Tom Wilson (Caps)
Toffoli (Kings)
Tuch (Knights)
Kapanen (Leafs)
Nyqvist (Wings)

I’m sure there are more but those are just a few that I have thought about.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:42 PM ET
I hope so. As much as the Sens suck, Mark Stone is a very high-end winger and a great asset for us. If he gets traded, it should be for a haul of picks and/or prospects and/or good young players. Adding Brodie doesn't do much for a rebuilding team.
- Mr_Clean

I agree 100%. Id love to have him, but trading him for Brodie would make no sense for you guys . But don’t start thinking Stone will get you replacements on that Duchene trade. That was a huge overpay.
Mr_Clean
Location: PLAYOFFS?, MB
Joined: 08.09.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:15 PM ET
I agree 100%. Id love to have him, but trading him for Brodie would make no sense for you guys . But don’t start thinking Stone will get you replacements on that Duchene trade. That was a huge overpay.
- TandA4Flames


In hindsight, yes. Would have been fine if next year's first wasn't likely to be high.

Insofar as no team would be very likely to trade away a top-10 pick for Stone (because he wouldn't make sense on a rebuilding team), you're right. I think decent top-6 forward + 1st rounder + solid prospect would be a fair ask, though, which is what we gave up for Duchene (the 3rd was for the Avs to take on Hammond's salary). If the team ending up sucking for some reason, that would recoup most of Duchene's value for us

DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Apr 12 @ 9:41 PM ET
What about prying Saad out of Chicago?
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:47 PM ET
What about prying Saad out of Chicago?
- DuranDuran

Does he play RW? He’s a left shot. But at $6mil per I wouldn’t give up much. If it’s for Brodie I’d want more in return.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 10:19 PM ET
Brodie for Holtby.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Apr 12 @ 11:18 PM ET
Brodie for Holtby.
- FLflames34

Not a terrible idea. Still doesn’t solve the idea of adding a scoring winger.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 12 @ 11:38 PM ET
He's a better player based on what? He's had the same major issues with his game for the last two seasons.

The player he was this season is the player he is.

- Hunkulese

How about that Elliott!
Larsson_fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.08.2016

Apr 13 @ 12:30 AM ET
People on here like to bash Brodie for his bad year. SMe was said about Hamonic last year and Snow as still able to leverage an unprotected 1st and 2 x 2nds. Brodie is still thought of quite highly amongst other GMs around the league I’m sure. No reason at all Tre couldn’t get similar or more than what Hamonic got. Brodie is all the things Todd said, can play both sides (D that can play right side are huge in this league) and is signed for 2 more years in a value contract. Guys like bunkulese don’t know what they’re talking about in this regard.
- TandA4Flames



Guys....Brodie is not all that highly regarded my most outside of Calgary or maybe the didvision. At least not AS highly regarded as Ryan Mcdonough.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Apr 13 @ 1:15 AM ET


You wouldn’t do hamilton for Drai?

Jesus. Morons everywhere I guess...even chia isn’t that dumb.

- Iggysbff


My memory sucks these days. How many points did Hall get this year? Who did they trade him for again?
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Apr 13 @ 1:19 AM ET
brodie is overrated, but the issue is that he's a better player than what he showed this season so do you trade him now or wait for him to rebound next season?
- Nucker101


Trade him at the draft to some panicking gm rolling out a terrible contingency plan after failing to aquire some good player.

It worked for St Louis when we missed out on Anderssen and got Elliott. It worked for the Isles when the Oil missed out on Dougie and payed almost the same price for Reinhart. GMs get stressed out and turn into hockeybuzz members at the draft. That's when I would trade Brodie.

7-10th pick could be had if we did Brodie+. Other than the Oilers pick. Don't see any teams in the top 6 giving up their pick this year. Kind of a drop off after 6 anyway. Silver lining is the Oil are in bust territory picking out of the top 3 any given year.
FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Apr 13 @ 1:47 AM ET
Guys....Brodie is not all that highly regarded my most outside of Calgary or maybe the didvision. At least not AS highly regarded as Ryan Mcdonough.
- Larsson_fan


YOU ARE ALIVE!!! Brodie is better then Larrson.

two year season stats:

Brodie: 68 points
Larsson: 32 points

enough said? Brodie is a commodity in the trade market.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Apr 13 @ 4:05 AM ET
YOU ARE ALIVE!!! Brodie is better then Larrson.

two year season stats:

Brodie: 68 points
Larsson: 32 points

enough said? Brodie is a commodity in the trade market.

- FlamesFan1230


How important are points when your primary job is stopping the other team from scoring?

Brodie has been pretty bad at that this year.

I guess we could start calling them offensemen.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 13 @ 6:05 AM ET
He's a better player based on what? He's had the same major issues with his game for the last two seasons.

The player he was this season is the player he is.

- Hunkulese


Bingo.

He had 2 up years and the past 2 years have been more consistent to his norms. He is not a top pairing guy and will not reproduce a return like what Hamonic got. Hamonic is more regarded as a better defensive defenseman with some offensive upside because of his 1 season with plus 30 points. Brods is considered a offensive defenseman with defensive flaws that has seen his offensive numbers drop in the past 2 years. Both at apx the same age. Both showing who they actually are. At 27-28 you should know what you're getting from either. Brodie is kind of trending down and doesnt hold a ton of value.... Hamonic is kinda stagnant and only hold minor upside with what his offense might still become because he showed growth 2 years ago.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 13 @ 6:06 AM ET
People on here like to bash Brodie for his bad year. SMe was said about Hamonic last year and Snow as still able to leverage an unprotected 1st and 2 x 2nds. Brodie is still thought of quite highly amongst other GMs around the league I’m sure. No reason at all Tre couldn’t get similar or more than what Hamonic got. Brodie is all the things Todd said, can play both sides (D that can play right side are huge in this league) and is signed for 2 more years in a value contract. Guys like bunkulese don’t know what they’re talking about in this regard.
- TandA4Flames



It's been 2 years plus already. Not just this season.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 13 @ 6:14 AM ET
Here’s a quick list of guys I think we could look at and for 1 reason or another, may be able to entice the other team with a trade centered around Brodie. I won’t go into detail why I think for each player because it’d be too long. Also, some players may require additional assets from either side.

Tom Wilson (Caps)
Toffoli (Kings)
Tuch (Knights)
Kapanen (Leafs)
Nyqvist (Wings)

I’m sure there are more but those are just a few that I have thought about.

- TandA4Flames


Tom wilson is a RFA
Toffoli is cheap and still controllable on a cap strapped team
Tuch is a rookie on entry level team.
Kapanen is entry level and a team/ fan fav on the cheap
Nyquist I'm not sure about the hype about him. Maybe gem eventually.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 13 @ 6:17 AM ET
Guys....Brodie is not all that highly regarded my most outside of Calgary or maybe the didvision. At least not AS highly regarded as Ryan Mcdonough.
- Larsson_fan


Probably not regarded half has highly as McDonough, especially not when it isn't tdl or draft day.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 13 @ 6:34 AM ET
My memory sucks these days. How many points did Hall get this year? Who did they trade him for again?
- fry


And what did Calgary give up for Hamonic? Total damage is comparable.
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