Dude, you cannot possibly be trying to equivocate Ryan and RORs contract. That's absurd
- jcragcrumple

No, you said it would make the team worse. I don't see how that's possible

You folks realize were talking about the leagues best D man who's 27, right?

He had 43 EV points, on the 2nd lowest scoring team in hockey.

He's the elite of the elite at his position.

They can have any 2 players on this team that aren't named Jack + whatever money he wants
- sbroads24

Absolutely, but he's not going to sign with the Sens, everyone knows that. And he'd be a rental. The Sens have very little leverage, he will not get "fair" value.

It's Tim Murray logic: overpay for one good player, give up other good assets, and take on horrible contracts in the process.

But under this model, we also get older.

I agree with Fitz, never gonna happen, but the idea is insanity
- jcragcrumple

You're right, overpaying for a "good" player is Tim Murray's model.

Karlsson isn't good, he's well beyond good

Karlsson dominates play at his position better than Eichel does at his.

It's adding a top 10 NHL player.

Gimme Ryan if that's what it takes.

Absolutely not
- sbroads24

If he gets permission to seek an extension which almost has to happen, yeah, absolutely I can if they throw enough money at him.

Youth, speed, development, time

That's what I think they need

oh Dahlin would be a great start!
- Stripes77

Agreed

No, you said it would make the team worse. I don't see how that's possible
- sbroads24

It's absurd. You want to trade 13 mil in productive salary for 18+ mil that's older.

Ryan is straight garbage. You can try to spin it anyway, but he is bad.

100 points for Risto and ROR for less salary that's younger. There's literally no reason to even entertain this idea beyond blind hate for ROR

That's like saying i'm the second best basketball player on the court when me and LeBron are going 1 on 1.

A team with Karlsson, Eichel, Mittelstadt, plus top 4 pick is an actual core that resembles what cup teams have (assuming CM is really good)
- sbroads24

Except in the "deals" posted here you don't get that top 4 pick. One guy even said "multiple" 1sts.

It's absurd. You want to trade 13 mil in productive salary for 18+ mil that's older.

Ryan is straight garbage. You can try to spin it anyway, but he is bad.

100 points for Risto and ROR for less salary that's younger. There's literally no reason to even entertain this idea beyond blind hate for ROR
- jcragcrumple

What's absurd is not wanting literally the best player in the NHL at his position.

I'll quote a poster from the other day -

It is absolutely mind blowing that people want to bring most of this current team back. Mind blowing

What's absurd is not wanting literally the best player in the NHL at his position.
- sbroads24

Ok, well I at least respect this if you think he's the best NHL defenseman. I don't agree with that, but I get it.

I still don't think this team could ever go anywhere with the Bogo, Ryan and Okposo contracts, no proven 2C and only Scandella and Karlsson for the top 4. We'd be getting significantly older too, with insane amounts of celery tied up in underperforming players

Sixers won 16 in a row my dude. Don't see the Heat getting out of the 1st round. Embiid should be back at some point of the series too.
- Hatboro_Swords

That is very true but The teams that they played are soft as cream cheese so I’m pretty excited they are Basically coming into the playoffs not ready

I'll quote a poster from the other day -

It is absolutely mind blowing that people want to bring most of this current team back. Mind blowing
- sbroads24

What’s the point in trying to trade for Karlsson on the Buzz,
when YOU agree that it’s not happening in real life?

U guys really just feel like arguing that bad?

That is very true but The teams that they played are soft as cream cheese so I’m pretty excited they are Basically coming into the playoffs not ready
- gerbe75pts

NBA playoffs... yuck

I'll quote a poster from the other day -

It is absolutely mind blowing that people want to bring most of this current team back. Mind blowing
- sbroads24

I think you and I just disagree on which pieces to bring back. I want high roster turnover too

Karlsson dominates play at his position better than Eichel does at his.

It's adding a top 10 NHL player.

Gimme Ryan if that's what it takes.
- sbroads24

Agreed

NBA playoffs... yuck
- jdfitz77

Hey now I love my basketball lol

I don’t complain about baseball

Anyway fitz my brother thinks the leafs will sweep Boston and destroy them easily

And his “big 3 “ will be the top 3 scores in the playoffs

So which team do you guys love to hate more, Toronto or Boston?
Is it almost unanimously Toronto?

Ok, well I at least respect this if you think he's the best NHL defenseman. I don't agree with that, but I get it.

I still don't think this team could ever go anywhere with the Bogo, Ryan and Okposo contracts, no proven 2C and only Scandella and Karlsson for the top 4. We'd be getting significantly older too, with insane amounts of celery tied up in underperforming players
- jcragcrumple

IMO Mittelstadt is going to be a very good 2C.

So which team do you guys love to hate more, Toronto or Boston?
Is it almost unanimously Toronto?
- Ratsreign

I hate the leafs more because of my brother I was ok with them winning but his cocky attitude is pissing me off


Go Boston

i miss caring about hockey

So which team do you guys love to hate more, Toronto or Boston?
Is it almost unanimously Toronto?
- Ratsreign

theres no winner in this series only losers

What do you think they need?
- washedup20

Dahlin would be a nice start, getting rid of bad contracts is another.

What’s the point in trying to trade for Karlsson on the Buzz,
when YOU agree that it’s not happening in real life?

U guys really just feel like arguing that bad?
- jdfitz77

The SOLE purpose of the internet was only for arguing and schadenfreude.