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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:57 PM ET
We wouldn’t want those guys PLUS our “good” players?
I feel like we’d be a stronger team then if we just “Evander Kane’d” them

- jdfitz77


Signed them all to 7 year deals?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 16 @ 11:57 PM ET
That’s a terrible freaking return for O’Reilly

How does that make us better?

A top15 pick could just as easily be Grigorenko as it could be Forsberg
(they were drafted 1 pick apart)

And a “B” prospect is most likely a 3rd liner or bottom 6 defenseman

Wow...
no freaking way is that a good deal

- jdfitz77


Im hoping for a Top 10 draft pick maybe the habs or canucks

hell maybe the arizona coyotes will do it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 16 @ 11:58 PM ET
Dude what? You are the one who won’t let people use Kane’s lack of points in Buffalo because he’s a goal scorer.

Are you trolling or just not remembering?

- sbroads24


I remember you talking about Kane’s production in terms of seasons & not per game bc he was always hurt

Don’t even try to say u didn’t
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 16 @ 11:59 PM ET
does MacKinnon have a shot for the Hart?


does the odds change if he did it for a bigger market than colorado?

- homiedclown

No, Compher does though.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:03 AM ET
I remember you talking about Kane’s production in terms of seasons & not per game bc he was always hurt

Don’t even try to say u didn’t

- jdfitz77

Yeah, and if Eichel gets hurt for another 3-4 years in a row we can play the same game I guess.

What is your obsession with Kane? He’s gone and was never signing here. It was a massive mistake to trade for him. Good riddance to all of Tim Murray’s giant (frank) ups.

Bogo and O’Reilly are next
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:04 AM ET
It's a risk/reward thing. Suck for a decade and win a championship in Year 11 (not suggesting it's automatic) and that decade becomes a distant memory real fast.
- buffalofan19


We could just as easily be Edmonton or Arizona or NyIsles though

Sucking for a decade doesn’t mean we will be Pitt or Chicago

It’s certainly a debatable theory though

How many of Pitt & Chi players were actually drafted in the top5 who were a big part of their winning Championships

With Pitt,
I’d say just Crosby & Malkin (for the last 2)

With Chicago,
I think it was just Toews & Kane picked really high, right?

Does we really “need” 3 more top5 picks after this year?

Not saying it wouldn’t help...
but that’s A LOT of losing over a long period of time
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:05 AM ET
Yeah, 1 of them at least. Not all three on a whim
- sbroads24


Maybe not in the same post
But u have repeatedly called for each of them to be traded
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:05 AM ET
Yeah, and if Eichel gets hurt for another 3-4 years in a row we can play the same game I guess.

What is your obsession with Kane? He’s gone and was never signing here. It was a massive mistake to trade for him. Good riddance to all of Tim Murray’s giant (frank) ups.

Bogo and O’Reilly are next

- sbroads24


8. Buffalo likes what it has at centre with Eichel, Mittelstadt and Ryan O’Reilly. The Sabres believe a healthy Zach Bogosian and Jake McCabe will help Brendan Guhle and Casey Nelson, because they’ll be properly slotted.


sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:06 AM ET
We could just as easily be Edmonton or Arizona or NyIsles though

Sucking for a decade doesn’t mean we will be Pitt or Chicago

It’s certainly a debatable theory though

How many of Pitt & Chi players were actually drafted in the top5 who were a big part of their winning Championships

With Pitt,
I’d say just Crosby & Malkin (for the last 2)

With Chicago,
I think it was just Toews & Kane picked really high, right?

Does we really “need” 3 more top5 picks after this year?

Not saying it wouldn’t help...
but that’s A LOT of losing over a long period of time

- jdfitz77

You need luck and smart management along with elite talent. We don’t have elite talent or luck yet

robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:09 AM ET
too bad we never made the playoffs with kane, as he appears to be a perfect playoff player
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:09 AM ET
it's not temptation. it's calculated. I don't view it as tanking because i dont see it as trading away assets for a shot at a top pick.

I see some players who just don't fit their given roles at their current salaries. you may take a hit in the short term yes, but long term moving on from bad value is always in your best interest.

- Sabresfan-365


Maybe
What i see u guys doing though is what Boston & Toronto did with Kessel

HE was the problem there & needed to go
Yet he went to Pitt & has been a HUGE part of their success

So was Kessel the problem?
Or was it the team around him

U guys say stuff like O’Reilly is overpaid
I see him being a very valuable player who does a good job in his role with VERY LITTLE HELP around him
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:11 AM ET
too bad we never made the playoffs with kane, as he appears to be a perfect playoff player
- robz228

Best TDL acquisition and Sabres will need a miracle to get a 1st round pick* for him. Smart management, we’re all set now.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:12 AM ET
And if it’s Grigorenko than I guess we will just be a bad team again and draft really high and get someone really good.

Sounds like a win

- sbroads24


Or we could just draft Ristolainen, who is “barely a 4”

Or Girgensons, who is gonna be our future Captain

Or Nylander, who many are calling a bust

robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:12 AM ET
Best TDL acquisition and Sabres will need a miracle to get a 1st round pick* for him. Smart management, we’re all set now.
- Hatboro_Swords


happy for him though. 15 other playoff teams are idiots for not trading for him and hes in a great spot.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:12 AM ET
Maybe
What i see u guys doing though is what Boston & Toronto did with Kessel

HE was the problem there & needed to go
Yet he went to Pitt & has been a HUGE part of their success

So was Kessel the problem?
Or was it the team around him

U guys say stuff like O’Reilly is overpaid
I see him being a very valuable player who does a good job in his role with VERY LITTLE HELP around him

- jdfitz77



you do realize that after both teams moved on from kessel, they got way better right?

It is entirely possible the team is a problem for ROR as much as if not more than ROR is a problem for the team.

That doesn't change the fact that either scenario would require the Sabres to move on from him
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:13 AM ET
happy for him though. 15 other playoff teams are idiots for not trading for him and hes in a great spot.
- robz228

3 game samples are fun
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:14 AM ET
Tonight was Kane’s first assist in 13 games.

Can we stop pretending we traded prime Corey Perry?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 17 @ 12:14 AM ET
Signed them all to 7 year deals?
- buffalofan19


I’d have been cool signing Kane long term

I didn’t like the Okposo signing,
didn’t hate it either

Was cool with the Risto contract

I have repeatedly said Reinhart should get a 1 or 2 year bridge deal

Eichel will be overpaid at 10mil per
But like O’Reilly, we pretty much had to overpay
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:15 AM ET
3 game samples are fun
- sbroads24


yeah these 3 were all flukes

a team will lose in 4 to 7 games and could have badly used these 3 so i have no (frank)ing clue why you're trying to sound enlightened about SaMpLe SiZe!11!1
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
Auston Matthews - 1 goal in 3 games

Evander Kane - 2 goals in 3 games

Kane >>>Matthews
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:16 AM ET
Tonight was Kane’s first assist in 13 games.

Can we stop pretending we traded prime Corey Perry?

- sbroads24


"i dont like to just look at stats like the average simple mind" - sbroads

you're a caricature of yourself sometimes
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:17 AM ET
yeah these 3 were all flukes

a team will lose in 4 to 7 games and could have badly used these 3 so i have no (frank)ing clue why you're trying to sound enlightened about SaMpLe SiZe!11!1

- robz228

Dude I get it. He’s a true playoff player.

He’s getting more praise than the guy with 9 points in 2 games.

My god you guys are weird
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:18 AM ET
Dude I get it. He’s a true playoff player.

He’s getting more praise than the guy with 9 points in 2 games.

My god you guys are weird

- sbroads24


maybe because he played here? and was traded for peanuts?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 17 @ 12:18 AM ET
"i dont like to just look at stats like the average simple mind" - sbroads

you're a caricature of yourself sometimes

- robz228

Can you find that quote? Unless this is an awful job at paraphrasing
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Apr 17 @ 12:18 AM ET
"i dont like to just look at stats like the average simple mind" - sbroads

you're a caricature of yourself sometimes

- robz228

3 game samples are too large a sample size. Prefer shift long samples. As long as Compher or Armia score on that shift every 10 games
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