So then how exactly are we setting ourselves back 3 years?
- sbroads24

Holy poop, dude.

I will say it one more time. I'm talking about Risto and Risto only.

if you move risto

your RD are nelson, bogo and fedun

borgen in rochester


bogo for the norris?
- homiedclown

i wasn't aware that moving Risto came with a "do not add any other right handed defensemen" clause

Holy poop, dude.

I will say it one more time. I'm talking about Risto and Risto only.
- Wetbandit1

If he is good enough so that trading him set us back 3 years, then he would be good enough to elevate his teammates around him. He hasn't.

Trading him isn't ideal. It no where near sets us back 3 years

Jesus Christ.
- SABRES 89

no more miller talk please

i wasn't aware that moving Risto came with a "do not add any other right handed defensemen" clause
- Sabresfan-365

Didn't you hear? Aren't allowed to for 3 years

i wasn't aware that moving Risto came with a "do not add any other right handed defensemen" clause
- Sabresfan-365

I am not sure I want nelson, fedun or bogo playing on the second pair either

i wasn't aware that moving Risto came with a "do not add any other right handed defensemen" clause
- Sabresfan-365

That's why you hope for Dahlin, keep Risto and add another good D man. Move forward not back.

no more miller talk please



- homiedclown

We haven't had a QB since Kelly and no goalie since Miller.

We haven't had a QB since Kelly and no goalie since Miller.
- SABRES 89

we have potential

I am not sure I want nelson, fedun or bogo playing on the second pair either
- homiedclown

Im inclined to respond with the same post. Botterill all but confirmed mccabe/bogo will be the 2nd pair next year, and tbh it doesnt matter. As much as I don't like Bogosian, there are no moves that make this team a playoff contender as soon as next year. This at least ensures Guhle and Nelson get sheltered minutes.

If he is good enough so that trading him set us back 3 years, then he would be good enough to elevate his teammates around him. He hasn't.

Trading him isn't ideal. It no where near sets us back 3 years
- sbroads24

I was just giving a scenario. I can't see the future. Who the (frank) knows? I was just showing how it can indeed, get worse. Since that seems to be the only tangible reason I've heard for getting rid of Risto. The only other reason being rampant conjecture.

And Risto was better than his teammates this year, if he's doing his own thing maybe they should try it his way.

Im inclined to respond with the same post. Botterill all but confirmed mccabe/bogo will be the 2nd pair next year, and tbh it doesnt matter. As much as I don't like Bogosian, there are no moves that make this team a playoff contender as soon as next year. This at least ensures Guhle and Nelson get sheltered minutes.
- Sabresfan-365

In all honesty, I don't buy this for one second

Didn't you hear? Aren't allowed to for 3 years
- sbroads24

They're both secondary guys, why are people so afraid to move on from them?

In all honesty, I don't buy this for one second
- sbroads24

agreed

They're both secondary guys, why are people so afraid to move on from them?
- Sabresfan-365

pysyk and mcnabb fans say hi

we have potential



- homiedclown

Beauty is a light switch away.

i wasn't aware that moving Risto came with a "do not add any other right handed defensemen" clause
- Sabresfan-365

Who are you going to get?

Let's hear actual ideas instead of just "get rid of them, good riddance".

And, no, "a 1st and a team's 2nd or 3rd best prospect" is not an idea. It's lazy.

you don't draft casey to be your 3rd line center

you don't pay RoR to be your 3rd line center

discuss
- homiedclown

Move him to the wing...
2013 - 2014 numbers 28g 36a 64pts
Ryan O’Reilly — Matt Duchene — P.A. Parenteau

In all honesty, I don't buy this for one second
- sbroads24

I didn't at first but it kind of makes sense. They don't want Guhle or Nelson playing heavy minutes and I doubt either he or Pegula want yet another buyout on the payroll.

They won't be good next year, so they're better off feeding bogo and mccabe to the wolves to protect Guhle and Nelson.

I was just giving a scenario. I can't see the future. Who the (frank) knows? I was just showing how it can indeed, get worse. Since that seems to be the only tangible reason I've heard for getting rid of Risto. The only other reason being rampant conjecture.

And Risto was better than his teammates this year, if he's doing his own thing maybe they should try it his way.
- Wetbandit1

In some areas. Others no. In totals, sure, but only Scandella and Risto played more than 59 games on our blue line

Beauty is a light switch away.
- SABRES 89

Who are you going to get?

Let's hear actual ideas instead of just "get rid of them, good riddance".

And, no, "a 1st and a team's 2nd or 3rd best prospect" is not an idea. It's lazy.
- Wetbandit1

are you and fitz the same person? lol


It's not lazy, I don't know the NHL trade market. I couldn't tell you for a second what ROR's value is, who is available, who might become available a month from now, 2 months from now etc.

Maybe they can swing a deal where they get Galchenyuk from MTL, maybe Trouba and the Jets can't work out an extension. Maybe the Oilers pull another classic and decide to move on from Klefbom. Or maybe there's a whole set of other players that could quietly be available

Ristolainen's most common linemates

Marco Scandella D BUF 940:31
Robin Lehner G BUF 760:34
Ryan O'Reilly C BUF 500:13
Chad Johnson G BUF 486:15
Sam Reinhart C BUF 400:55 939:22
Jack Eichel C BUF 362:19 709:46
Jason Pominville R BUF 346:03

If you don't like the direction the team is going in and want to force change, but keep giving them your money? Yes.

If you really don't care and just like going to games? No.

But we've been over all this before.

You can get tickets dirt cheap on the open market while they're bad. So you might have to wait a year or two once they're good to get your tickets back. Big deal. If you can afford season tickets you can afford to pay a little more for games, especially with all the money you saved by not buying them for a few years.
- Wetbandit1

That's not how it works.

If you have poopty seats in the corner, sure you can probably jump back in and grab those seats or similarly crappy seats.
If you have seniority and lifetime seats, you bite the bullet for years.
A season ticket strike isn't going to change anything.
The Sabres are going to be good, and when they are, the prices will be ridiculous.

I really think we contend for a playoff spot thru March next year.
The sabres want their tickets back so they can charge outrageous prices themselves. Instead of season ticket holders making a margin.
For the past 8 years the Sabres have been brutal, but maintained 16,000 sth. Now on the fridge, they want their seats back.

Tanked terrible on purpose this year
Offer nothing to sth
Do zero upgrades to the arena
Continue to not clean the bathrooms ect.

There must be a reason?

I'm not complaining, I like going to the games

That's not how it works.

If you have poopty seats in the corner, sure you can probably jump back in and grab those seats or similarly crappy seats.
If you have seniority and lifetime seats, you bite the bullet for years.
A season ticket strike isn't going to change anything.
The Sabres are going to be good, and when they are, the prices will be ridiculous.

I really think we contend for a playoff spot thru March next year.
The sabres want their tickets back so they can charge outrageous prices themselves. Instead of season ticket holders making a margin.
For the past 8 years the Sabres have been brutal, but maintained 16,000 sth. Now on the fridge, they want their seats back.

Tanked terrible on purpose this year
Offer nothing to sth
Do zero upgrades to the arena
Continue to not clean the bathrooms ect.

There must be a reason?

I'm not complaining, I like going to the games
- Boss34

Born and raised in Buffalo, if I lived there still I would be at the games win or lose.