But if a team say NE gives up both firsts this year, and a first next year, they move in and get the guy.
- ImThatGuy

They need to get to 2 or 4.

Not a chance they would pay more than what it would cost to move to 2

You're forgetting the one simple thing

Besides Miami who is at pick 11 and doesn't have another 1st this year

Buffalo holds the most value

They say take 12 and 22 and be done with it or there's no deal to be made.
- Stripes77

12 and 22 isn't enough for 2.

But if a team say NE gives up both firsts this year, and a first next year, they move in and get the guy.
- ImThatGuy

So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value

12 and 22 isn't enough for 2.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

This isn't a discussion to move to 2

This isn't a discussion to move to 2
- Stripes77

Oh gotcha. Came in late

I bet you Cleveland would love another 2019 1st round pick from some of these bottom feeder teams. They must love sitting at 1 and 4 this year. Phone is probably ringing off the hook.

Starting a rookie qb with no other draft picks to protect him, is a recipe for disaster
- Boss34

Which is why if I am Buffalo next years 1st is off limits

Oh gotcha. Came in late
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

I figured

So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value
- Stripes77

Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.

I think they will now have a long term and short term vision

IMO given these qbs


I would stand pat, build the roster depth with current picks

if the qb play is bad, this season, and I don't think it would be any worse then tyrod, get a qb in 2019 when all the other teams blew their wad on these bums
- homiedclown

I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?

please no more well this guy might be good, but he is a massive project, lets hope we get lucky, which in that case getting lucky is getting Andy Dalton.
- ImThatGuy

Well thats what you are doing after the main 4 guys are gone.

The next 4 are hoping you get lucky.

So three late first rounders over picks 12 and 22?

Pick 12 and 22 have a value of 1200+870 has a 2070 point value

Picks 23 and 31 plus say 28 next year have a value of 760+600+660 has a 2020 point value

Again Buffalo still holds a higher value
- Stripes77

I don't think NE is done moving up and IMO if they can get into the top 5/6 it's for Chubb. Just a hunch.

I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?
- 22sabresQ

Thats a mistake, IMO. McCarron had great weapons with Cincy, and the offense plummeted with him at the helm when he took over for an injured Dalton. He only averaged 175 yards a game.

Now if they want to start him while the QB they drafted in the top 5 gets ready, sure I am all for that.

Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.
- ImThatGuy

Something NFL GM's hold near and dear

Sure why not...

I don't think NE is done moving up and IMO if they can get into the top 5/6 it's for Chubb. Just a hunch.
- dadeadhead

One last run at the Super Bowl you think?

Draft chart be dammed. if buffalo comes in and offers only 12 and 22 where New England offers both 1's and next years 1. 100 times out of 100, that team takes NE's offer.
- ImThatGuy

No one in the top 5-7 are interested in dropping out of the top 10-15. So in this case the Bills picks are more valuable than 2 picks in the last 3rd of the 1st and 28-32nd pick in the 1st next year.

NE has to turn 31 into a top 15 pick to have a shot. They have some work to do.

I had the same thought the other night... maybe they think A.J. can be the man... grab a Linebacker, Wide reciever, Offensive Lineman or Cornerback/Safety with the first 3 or 4 picks, maybe they grab a decent QB with the 4th or 5th pick ?
- 22sabresQ

If they don't take a QB until the 4th or 5th round I think that's a huge failure.

I think they get a guy in the 1st round.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they move into the late 1st for a QB still on the board (like Rudolph)

No one in the top 5-7 are interested in dropping out of the top 10-15. So in this case the Bills picks are more valuable than 2 picks in the last 3rd of the 1st and 28-32nd pick in the 1st next year.

NE has to turn 31 into a top 15 pick to have a shot. They have some work to do.
- dadeadhead

Thank you

Something NFL GM's hold near and dear

Sure why not...
- Stripes77

I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.

I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.
- dadeadhead

it would be funny if we moved up, and drafted Chubb

I think Ole Bill is enamored with Chubb.

If 3 Qb's go in the top 3 you know CLE is going Barkley at 4.

IMO they should be going Chubb.
- dadeadhead

Would be interesting

I think Ole Bill hangs it up soon after Brady, I think he is annoyed with having to trade Jimmy G who was clearly the next guy

it would be funny if we moved up, and drafted Chubb
- homiedclown

Funny? Funny how?

Would be interesting

I think Ole Bill hangs it up soon after Brady, I think he is annoyed with having to trade Jimmy G who was clearly the next guy
- Stripes77

If Chubb goes 4 I think it makes #5 interesting with Denver just releasing Anderson.

Funny? Funny how?
- Stripes77

What is it than makes you funny?

Marc Bertrand
‏Verified account @Marc_Bertrand

Should be interesting when the Bills host the Patriots at 10/29 at 8:15pm


Monday night football in Buffalo???

Dear god

What is it than makes you funny?
- dadeadhead