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buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:18 PM ET
But Pommer at 5.6mil is

Good grief

- jdfitz77



Pomminville is gone after next season. The Sabres are stuck with five more seasons of O'Reilly.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:18 PM ET
But Pommer at 5.6mil is

Good grief

- jdfitz77

Because. You. Can't. Trade. Pommer.

buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:19 PM ET
Again...
I’m ok trading ROR if it’s for a legit player

I’d just rather have the best 3C in the league than to trade him for parts

We have tons of salary coming off the books the next 2 years so that his 7.5m isn’t gonna be an issue

- jdfitz77



If you are paying someone $7.5 million per year to be the "best 3C in the league", you will never be a championship contender.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
C'mon man. You're reaching
- jcragcrumple


He never does...

“Risto is barely a 4”
-Sbroads
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
Team Canada plays guys who need help on both sides of the ice all the time though

Oh, wait....

- jdfitz77

Team Canada had Chris Kunitz.

Team USA picked Ryan Callahan over Phil Kessel and Pominville in the middle of his prime.

This means nothing to me
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:20 PM ET
Pomminville is gone after next season. The Sabres are stuck with five more seasons of O'Reilly.
- buffalofan19


“Stuck” though?
Disagree

He’s a good player!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
Team Canada plays guys who need help on both sides of the ice all the time though

Oh, wait....

- jdfitz77


What's lost in this conversation is that the next time you find a 2-way center who gets 20+ goals a years, and 55-60 points a year, while taking 1 penalty a year and every important draw, will cost... Wait for it... $7.5 mil a year.

Ffs, Drouin costs $5.5
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:21 PM ET
Because. You. Can't. Trade. Pommer.
- sbroads24


U also don’t have to say he’s “good at his role”

Not for 5.6mil he isn’t
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:22 PM ET
Team Canada had Chris Kunitz.

Team USA picked Ryan Callahan over Phil Kessel and Pominville in the middle of his prime.

This means nothing to me

- sbroads24



Ok... good points

Did u watch ROR on team Canada though?
He was one of their best players
It goes to show what he can do when he isn’t surrounded by garbage
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:23 PM ET
Team Canada had Chris Kunitz.

Team USA picked Ryan Callahan over Phil Kessel and Pominville in the middle of his prime.

This means nothing to me

- sbroads24



Changing the subject, for all the good work USA Hockey is doing at the Junior level, their evaluation at the men's best-on-best level borders on embarrassing.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:23 PM ET
What's lost in this conversation is that the next time you find a 2-way center who gets 20+ goals a years, and 55-60 points a year, while taking 1 penalty a year and every important draw, will cost... Wait for it... $7.5 mil a year.

Ffs, Drouin costs $5.5

- jcragcrumple

And 4 assets? Or could you not already have one you used 1 draft pick on the year before?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:24 PM ET
What's lost in this conversation is that the next time you find a 2-way center who gets 20+ goals a years, and 55-60 points a year, while taking 1 penalty a year and every important draw, will cost... Wait for it... $7.5 mil a year.

Ffs, Drouin costs $5.5

- jcragcrumple


And for those who say ROR is overpaid...
ok
But it’s Buffalo
We are gonna have to overpay for good players
It sucks
But that’s how it is

Otherwise we just end up with guys like Pouliot who are a “deal” playing on line2

Screw that
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:24 PM ET
Ok... good points

Did u watch ROR on team Canada though?
He was one of their best players
It goes to show what he can do when he isn’t surrounded by garbage

- jdfitz77

Or just when captain passion feels like trying?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:26 PM ET
Changing the subject, for all the good work USA Hockey is doing at the Junior level, their evaluation at the men's best-on-best level borders on embarrassing.
- buffalofan19


Hopefully talent like Eichel & Matthews & others knocks the older guys like Callahan, Brown, Parise even, etc off the team
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
And 4 assets? Or could you not already have one you used 1 draft pick on the year before?
- sbroads24


I can only hope we get a mid-to-late first and a Fasching-type prospect.

Maybe we can draft

Pysyk
Zagrapan
Persson
Ennis
Girgensons
grigorenko
Armia

It would be a steal if we could shed his salary for that
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
Man bulldog really doesn’t like Josh Rosen
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Apr 25 @ 6:27 PM ET
I see the school of stubbornness is back in session here.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:29 PM ET
Or just when captain passion feels like trying?
- sbroads24


U think ROR didn’t try with us?
I’d say it was more that he was exhausted physically & mentally

Listen...
trade him for someone else that’s actually good, and I’m fine
Trade him for Foligno, Bailey & a pick that’s more likely to become Girgs or Grigorenko...

THATS MY ISSUE
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Apr 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
our definition of mediocre picks/prospects is the breaking point. Ill just leave it there.
- Sabresfan-365



jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
U think ROR didn’t try with us?
I’d say it was more that he was exhausted physically & mentally

Listen...
trade him for someone else that’s actually good, and I’m fine
Trade him for Foligno, Bailey & a pick that’s more likely to become Girgs or Grigorenko...


THATS MY ISSUE

- jdfitz77



Yup, yup.Right there with you. We need players who can play, not Gaustad for a first. ROR can play
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 25 @ 6:30 PM ET
I can only hope we get a mid-to-late first and a Fasching-type prospect.

Maybe we can draft

Pysyk
Zagrapan
Persson
Ennis
Girgensons
grigorenko
Armia

It would be a steal if we could shed his salary for that

- jcragcrumple

I’m glad we are using our most disappointing prospect + our worst first rounders for this example
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 25 @ 6:31 PM ET
I can only hope we get a mid-to-late first and a Fasching-type prospect.

Maybe we can draft

Pysyk
Zagrapan
Persson
Ennis
Girgensons
grigorenko
Armia

It would be a steal if we could shed his salary for that

- jcragcrumple



EXACTLY
i can’t believe ppl just wanna keep dumping good players

We’ll end up with Pouliot & Pommer on line2 instead of Kane & O’Reilly
I just don’t see how that helps
(Unless we are tanking again)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:32 PM ET
I’m glad we are using our most disappointing prospect + our worst first rounders for this example
- sbroads24


Please give me better examples of Sabres mid-to-late firsts in the last 15 years. 10 or later
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--F, Benoit Pouliot
- Michael Pachla

move along
nothing to see here

he impressed me a bit early on, mailed it in once calendar was flipped
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 25 @ 6:33 PM ET
I remember Cullen taking a lot of faceoffs as 4C for Pitt,
while Crosby, Malkin & Kessel (all on different lines) still got plenty of icetime

It can be done
And since Botts came from Pitt,
it’s reasonable to at least think he’s considering the kind of setup i suggested

- jdfitz77


It's really basic math. If Jack and Casey weigh heavily toward ozone starts, even if a 4th line center is heavy dzone, the remainder is still heavy dzone, but lower TOI.

That's just centers though, we have a terrible collection of defensive wingers.....wingers period, really.
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