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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:30 AM ET
What do u mean?
We totally fixed Tyrod & EJs accuracy issues

Oh, wait...

- jdfitz77


To be fair, which nobody is really being: there is a chasm in talent and ability between Allen and Tyrod/EJ.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
You know, it is possible he ends being pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmRF0zrLZcc

- kingcong39



Doubt it
Read the article i posted

Also...
did u actually watch him play?
Every decent team he played against,
he lost to
And scored no more than 14pts

Led Wyoming to a 4th place finish in the Mountain West
Not like he was going against Alabama or Auburn
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
To be fair, which nobody is really being: there is a chasm in talent and ability between Allen and Tyrod/EJ.
- kingcong39


Doesn’t mean his accuracy can be fixed though

Read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 27 @ 8:32 AM ET
All the reports?
- kingcong39


Forensic research into nation wide reports reveal Terry Pegula is the owner of the Buffalo Bills
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
Doubt it
Read the article i posted

Also...
did u actually watch him play?
Every decent team he played against,
he lost to
And scored no more than 14pts

Led Wyoming to a 4th place finish in the Mountain West
Not like he was going against Alabama or Auburn

- jdfitz77


I did not, but my close friend did, which is who did the video I posted.

He did actual full analysis by watching every single one of his games via the Hudl, so when it comes to opinions, I'll gladly incorporate that into the world of possibilities.
mattsox
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.14.2012

Apr 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
I actually don’t like Beane’s track record all that much
But yeah,
all i can do now is hope I’m wrong
Absolutely hate the pick though

- jdfitz77



That says it all.

He better get more right than wrong or else we all know what will happen.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:35 AM ET
Doubt it
Read the article i posted

Also...
did u actually watch him play?
Every decent team he played against,
he lost to
And scored no more than 14pts

Led Wyoming to a 4th place finish in the Mountain West
Not like he was going against Alabama or Auburn

- jdfitz77


Also, did you watch him play? Highlights, one game, a few games, every game?
sabreswarpath
Joined: 10.09.2008

Apr 27 @ 8:36 AM ET
Terrible pick
This article lays it out pretty well
Hope I’m wrong,
but i have zero faith that Allen will be good

https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons

- jdfitz77


No idea how you can call any pick terrible at this point.

They have met with him, done extensive research, watched tape, I am sure had Allen break down tape, tested him physically, and mentally.

Physically their is no denying he is the epitome of a starting NFL QB, Size , arm etc.

Mental part , and how they use him comes down to coaching, and developing properly.

They staked their reputations and jobs on this guy, lets wait and see before we say things like terrible.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:40 AM ET
I actually don’t like Beane’s track record all that much
But yeah,
all i can do now is hope I’m wrong
Absolutely hate the pick though

- jdfitz77


Guess you should apply to be the AGM.

Tre White, picked 27th, defensive ROY runner up
Zay Jones, book is still out but expected to improve a lot.
Dion Dawkins, late 2nd rounder, becomes a starter his rookie year
Matt Milano, 5th round pick, becomes a starter his rookie year
Nate Peterman, 5th round pick, actually has the ability to start a game his rookie year. Go find me three other QBs that can say that drafted 5th round or after.
Tanner Vallejo, 6th round pick, great special teams player, slated to compete to start this year.

Let's talk about Doug Whaley's drafts.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 8:40 AM ET
all the reports leaking the info now that this was 100% Terry Pegula's guy, his decision in the end.

And people knock me for hating him as an owner.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Meh he likes to be Jerry Jones but it's his team
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
What do u mean?
We totally fixed Tyrod & EJs accuracy issues

Oh, wait...

- jdfitz77


Cause Josh Allen is EJ Manuel, forgot
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
Why are you still here?
- TheSabresTaco


That question can be said for any Buffalo fan

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:41 AM ET
To be fair, which nobody is really being: there is a chasm in talent and ability between Allen and Tyrod/EJ.
- kingcong39


Stop being reasonable you little poop
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:42 AM ET
That question can be said for any Buffalo fan
- gerbe75pts


The sun rose today. Go drink a kale smoothie and chill the (frank) out
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
Doubt it
Read the article i posted

Also...
did u actually watch him play?
Every decent team he played against,
he lost to
And scored no more than 14pts

Led Wyoming to a 4th place finish in the Mountain West
Not like he was going against Alabama or Auburn

- jdfitz77


I had no idea the QB was the only player on the team
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
Also, did you watch him play? Highlights, one game, a few games, every game?
- kingcong39


I DVRd all the games on tv from the topQBs this past season
Gave up on Allen after watching him suck about 5 or 6 times
And that was against teams like Colorado St, Hawaii, etc

He took Wyoming to 4th place...
in the Mountain West
What’s he gonna do in the AFC East?

Played 4 pretty good teams this past year
@Iowa- L 24-3
vsOregon- L 49-13
@BoiseSt- L 24-14
vsFresnoSt- L 13-7

Not like this dude was going up against Alabama & Auburn

Hope I’m wrong...
but i have ZERO faith that this kid will be good

He even lost to SanJoseState
I didn’t even know that school existed
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
What do u mean?
We totally fixed Tyrod & EJs accuracy issues

Oh, wait...

- jdfitz77


We didn't destroy our future for quarterback so if it doesn't work out we can try again in 2 years
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:44 AM ET
Doesn’t mean his accuracy can be fixed though

Read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons

- jdfitz77


We are getting off on the wrong foot here as you, and several others, have their opinions on Allen cemented in granite, but all I am saying is he's no bum, as he has serious talent, and it's far, FAR from a foregone conclusion that he's going to be a bust as quite a few seem to already think is the case.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:44 AM ET
No idea how you can call any pick terrible at this point.

They have met with him, done extensive research, watched tape, I am sure had Allen break down tape, tested him physically, and mentally.

Physically their is no denying he is the epitome of a starting NFL QB, Size , arm etc.

Mental part , and how they use him comes down to coaching, and developing properly.

They staked their reputations and jobs on this guy, lets wait and see before we say things like terrible.

- sabreswarpath


This is bigly big. And this staff has targeted guys who fit their system and got a ton out of them.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:47 AM ET
Cause Josh Allen is EJ Manuel, forgot
- TheSabresTaco


Oh, so that means he WILL fix his accuracy issues?

It’s not easy to do

Just read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:47 AM ET
I DVRd all the games on tv from the topQBs this past season
Gave up on Allen after watching him suck about 5 or 6 times
And that was against teams like Colorado St, Hawaii, etc

He took Wyoming to 4th place...
in the Mountain West
What’s he gonna do in the AFC East?

Played 4 pretty good teams this past year
@Iowa- L 24-3
vsOregon- L 49-13
@BoiseSt- L 24-14
vsFresnoSt- L 13-7

Not like this dude was going up against Alabama & Auburn

Hope I’m wrong...
but i have ZERO faith that this kid will be good

He even lost to SanJoseState
I didn’t even know that school existed

- jdfitz77


Is that the San Jose State game they lost 20-17 as the last game of their regular season, which is the game Allen did not play in?

http://www.espn.com/colle...all/game?gameId=400945309

Did you also know that the coach runs such an outdated offense that they call him Craig NeanderBohl?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
I had no idea the QB was the only player on the team
- TheSabresTaco


Played bad against mediocre competition
It’s not rocket science bro
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
Sal Capaccio 🏈

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Bills QB Josh Allen on @WGR550 this morning on comp % in 2017: "If I completed 16 more passes the entire year I would have had a 62%....but it's definitely something that needs to be fixed."


WORST EVER
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
Oh, so that means he WILL fix his accuracy issues?

It’s not easy to do

Just read the article
https://www.sbnation.com/...tats-analysis-comparisons

- jdfitz77


Of course not, but it means there is a better chance his accuracy will be fine due to his immense talent, especially compared to a player like EJ.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 27 @ 8:49 AM ET
The sun rose today. Go drink a kale smoothie and chill the (frank) out
- TheSabresTaco


I'm pretty chill right now yesterday I was so pissed yesterday But my friends Calmed me down

I'm just questioning why we took on a project when we don't have anybody to groom that "project"

When Rosen is already Pro ready..

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