The top ten has players that will step right into the NHL
- gerbe75pts

then why in the world would someone trade a top 10 pick for him

ROR scored 30 primary points in wins or overtime losses on the team that finished last in the league

"easily replaced"
- robz228

And he quit on the team and is not fast

He scores at EV like a below average 2nd line center. That’s a fact.

If you want to be impressed with him potting goals 5 on 4 because the opposition takes away Eichel’s shot from the left side, and gives him plenty of room on the right, be my guest.
- sbroads24

Oh so now nothing on the powerplay counts

give me a break man. like i said, first points in losses didnt count because he only scores when we are behind

(not true)

next powerplay secondary assists don't count because thats all he does

(not true)

now powerplay points don't count at all because eichel is on the ice

when does it stop?

We already went down this rabbithole and you kept eliminating stats of him saying they dont count until we were down to 30 primary points in wins or OTLs

spare me that anyone will score on the powerplay
- robz228

Someday Brad Pitt will star in a movie and trade the guys who rode along on his PP....then everyone will accept it.

You’ve got an elite level Rasmus on your hands. The other one is an okay bottom pairing PP specialist. Dahlin will carry Ristolainen on his back for the next decade.

And he quit on the team and is not fast
- gerbe75pts

he didn't quit, he said he lost his love of the game. if he puts up 60 points in a season he quit then i guess hes incredible.

hes slow, can't argue that.

Oh so now nothing on the powerplay counts

give me a break man. like i said, first points in losses didnt count because he only scores when we are behind

(not true)

next powerplay secondary assists don't count because thats all he does

(not true)

now powerplay points don't count at all because eichel is on the ice

when does it stop?
- robz228

Times I’ve said “it doesn’t count” -0

You keep putting that phrase in my mouth.

PP points count. They all count.

You know what leads to winning over an extended period of time? Being a threat 5 on 5.

Ryan O’Reilly is not a threat 5 on 5

Don't forget the * that is at the bottom of the page...

Reeds: depends on the weather.
- cabin

I thought * meant whatever’s written after it would never happen

You’ve got an elite level Rasmus on your hands. The other one is an okay bottom pairing PP specialist. Dahlin will carry Ristolainen on his back for the next decade.
- Rexypoo

I have no idea how Risto got this PP specialist label. He's really nothing special on the PP and is about to be replaced by someone who is.

then why in the world would someone trade a top 10 pick for him
- robz228

You just said moving him for a draft pick is dumb

Teams need a center and that’s why we’re discussing it

I can’t wait until Dahlin takes some PP points from Ristolainen and people can then pretend Risto “regressed”

he didn't quit, he said he lost his love of the game. if he puts up 60 points in a season he quit then i guess hes incredible.

hes slow, can't argue that.
- robz228

Dude that’s quitting are you serious ? He’s probably going to female dog up a storm when jack gets the C also

I have no idea how Risto got this PP specialist label. He's really nothing special on the PP and is about to be replaced by someone who is.
- Lunaion

Our fan base confuses the hell out of me.

And he quit on the team and is not fast
- gerbe75pts

Jesus Christ he didn't quit, losing takes a toll on you year after year but because he voiced his opinion now he's a quitter.

Jesus Christ he didn't quit, losing takes a toll on you year after year but because he voiced his opinion now he's a quitter.
- SABRES 89

Times I’ve said “it doesn’t count” -0

You keep putting that phrase in my mouth.

PP points count. They all count.

You know what leads to winning over an extended period of time? Being a threat 5 on 5.

Ryan O’Reilly is not a threat 5 on 5
- sbroads24

Forwards who played at least 50 games with a dzone start % higher than ROR (57.3) with a rel corsi of at least +2 (RoR is +4.2)

Alexsandr Barkov
Mikko Koivu

Players that have remotely close to this combo

Loui Eriksson (50 GP, +2.9, 53.1%)

dats it

Dahlin scored 27 goals in five games in 2014-2015

That's like nhl18 be a pro cheats lol

You just said moving him for a draft pick is dumb

Teams need a center and that’s why we’re discussing it
- gerbe75pts

Okay, i will revise my statement. If you get an NHL ready player who plays near his caliber within 2 years, i'd take it.

anything short of that, he should stay or get an already NHL ready defenseman

Forwards who played at least 50 games with a dzone start % higher than ROR (57.3) with a rel corsi of at least +2 (RoR is +4.2)

Alexsandr Barkov
Mikko Koivu

Players that have remotely close to this combo

Loui Eriksson (50 GP, +2.9, 53.1%)

dats it
- robz228

Number of O zone starts - Even strength

Ryan O’Reilly - 484
Alex Ovechkin- 468

He’s not some offensively starved player

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Number of O zone starts - Even strength

Ryan O’Reilly - 484
Alex Ovechkin- 468

He’s not some offensively starved player
- sbroads24

alright so how many players with less than 484 even strength ozone starts scored more than 38 even strength points?

id look that up but im seriously distracting myself from my job

clearly theres no convincing you, but ROR is not even close to being easily replaced. It would take 2 players.

Mittelstadt coming up is icing on the cake, not a replacement for one of the few good players already here.

Okay, i will revise my statement. If you get an NHL ready player who plays near his caliber within 2 years, i'd take it.

anything short of that, he should stay or get an already NHL ready defenseman
- robz228

I already said if we can deal Ryan O'Reilly to St Louis for Jaden Schwartz,Barbashev or a 1st ( you have to look at the centers of that team they have zero besides one

Or move him to Vancouver for a first and Tanev

alright so how many players with less than 484 even strength ozone starts scored more than 38 even strength points?

id look that up but im seriously distracting myself from my job

clearly theres no convincing you, but ROR is not even close to being easily replaced. It would take 2 players.

Mittelstadt coming up is icing on the cake, not a replacement for one of the few good players already here.
- robz228

Most. O’Reilly was 22nd among forwards in offensive zone starts.

He got the offensive zone advantages of a teams best player (1-31)

And was tied for 111th in EV points among forwards with 34.

He isn’t great offensively. He’s a competent player

alright so how many players with less than 484 even strength ozone starts scored more than 38 even strength points?

id look that up but im seriously distracting myself from my job

clearly theres no convincing you, but ROR is not even close to being easily replaced. It would take 2 players.

Mittelstadt coming up is icing on the cake, not a replacement for one of the few good players already here.
- robz228

RoR was 125th in even strength scoring. Not going to check on zone starts, but most of them would have less. RoR takes a ton of draws.

I already said if we can deal Ryan O'Reilly to St Louis for Jaden Schwartz,Barbashev or a 1st ( you have to look at the centers of that team they have zero besides one

Or move him to Vancouver for a first and Tanev
- gerbe75pts

Can we call Stastny a comparable to ROR? Why would they trade Stastny then trade for ROR?

Benning seems like a moron, maybe they can swindle vancouver. that'd be good.