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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:22 PM ET
What big time centers did Colorado have to get to replace O’Reilly ?

Carl Soderberg and JT Compher.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:23 PM ET
Can we call Stastny a comparable to ROR? Why would they trade Stastny then trade for ROR?

Benning seems like a moron, maybe they can swindle vancouver. that'd be good.

- robz228

This is part of our entire point. His reputation exceeds his actual value.

Sell high.

I’m not trying to say the dude sucks. He doesn’t
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 30 @ 8:24 PM ET
holy poop stastny is 32
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 30 @ 8:25 PM ET
Can we call Stastny a comparable to ROR? Why would they trade Stastny then trade for ROR?

Benning seems like a moron, maybe they can swindle vancouver. that'd be good.

- robz228


Stastny was a free agent ...

Blues center depth
1- Schenn
2 Brodziak
3.Sobotka
4. Barbashev

Just think this team is going to be after Tavares if they miss out they are going to overpay for Ryan O'Reilly

Shadman306
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 06.11.2015

Apr 30 @ 8:25 PM ET
What big time centers did Colorado have to get to replace O’Reilly ?

Carl Soderberg and JT Compher.

- sbroads24


Post of the day
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 30 @ 8:27 PM ET
holy poop stastny is 32
- robz228


He entered the same time as Crosby lol
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:29 PM ET
This is part of our entire point. His reputation exceeds his actual value.

Sell high.

I’m not trying to say the dude sucks. He doesn’t

- sbroads24



I think Botterill will listen to offers on ROR. Being an alternate captain for Canada will raise his value. That said, I think there's a 75% chance he's back. It wouldn't shock me if he, Reinhart and Risto were all back. There are gonna be a ton of new faces without making any "big" moves. Some better wingers and better D play will help RORs 5-on-5, and he's already going to get a boost on PP1 - Dahlin, Risto, ror, Eichel and Reinhart. It wouldn't shock me if we got back to a top-5 or 10 PP this year. Let the kids develop in a lesser role, and reevaluate next year if they miss the playoffs again.

ROR is good for 20+35/40. He'll do it again and theres no rush to move him
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 30 @ 8:30 PM ET
I am confused

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:32 PM ET
I think Botterill will listen to offers on ROR. Being an alternate captain for Canada will raise his value. That said, I think there's a 75% chance he's back. It wouldn't shock me if he, Reinhart and Risto were all back. There are gonna be a ton of new faces without making any "big" moves. Some better wingers and better D play will help RORs 5-on-5, and he's already going to get a boost on PP1 - Dahlin, Risto, ror, Eichel and Reinhart. It wouldn't shock me if we got back to a top-5 or 10 PP this year. Let the kids develop in a lesser role, and reevaluate next year if they miss the playoffs again.

ROR is good for 20+35/40. He'll do it again and theres no rush to move him

- jcragcrumple

I just can’t see it. Botterill is hammering the need for speed and intensity improvement in every interview possible.

Whether it’s O’Reilly, Sam or Risto, one of them will be gone IMO.

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
I think Botterill will listen to offers on ROR. Being an alternate captain for Canada will raise his value. That said, I think there's a 75% chance he's back. It wouldn't shock me if he, Reinhart and Risto were all back. There are gonna be a ton of new faces without making any "big" moves. Some better wingers and better D play will help RORs 5-on-5, and he's already going to get a boost on PP1 - Dahlin, Risto, ror, Eichel and Reinhart. It wouldn't shock me if we got back to a top-5 or 10 PP this year. Let the kids develop in a lesser role, and reevaluate next year if they miss the playoffs again.

ROR is good for 20+35/40. He'll do it again and theres no rush to move him

- jcragcrumple


But no top 6 wingers, and now no draft pick for a top 6 winger....they have to get Jack at least 1 real winger. Getting Dahlin should make a trade easier.

The idea of bringing this core back intact drives me insane.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:36 PM ET
I just can’t see it. Botterill is hammering the need for speed and intensity improvement in every interview possible.

Whether it’s O’Reilly, Sam or Risto, one of them will be gone IMO.

- sbroads24


Maybe so. Or maybe Okposo is the "core" piece that gets moved. He's the most likely one to move, too, based on Botterill's comments. He's literally never mentioned. We'll find out in 2 short months. In the meantime, we can all enjoy the the Dahlin daydreams
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:36 PM ET
But no top 6 wingers, and now no draft pick for a top 6 winger....they have to get Jack at least 1 real winger. Getting Dahlin should make a trade easier.

The idea of bringing this core back intact drives me insane.

- Lunaion

Bonkers
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:38 PM ET
Maybe so. Or maybe Okposo is the "core" piece that gets moved. He's the most likely one to move, too, based on Botterill's comments. He's literally never mentioned. We'll find out in 2 short months. In the meantime, we can all enjoy the the Dahlin daydreams
- jcragcrumple

If Okposo could bring back as asset, sure.

I don’t think he’s just moving guys to move them.

He’s trying to get players best suited for a north south style.

O’Reilly doesn’t fit that, neither does 23.

Difference is, one is 22, the other is 27 and making huge $.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:40 PM ET
But no top 6 wingers, and now no draft pick for a top 6 winger....they have to get Jack at least 1 real winger. Getting Dahlin should make a trade easier.

The idea of bringing this core back intact drives me insane.

- Lunaion



Maybe San Jose re-signs Kane and we trade their first plus 32 to a team ready to rebuild for an impact winger. There are many ways to build this without getting rid of reinhaart, ror or Risto
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 30 @ 8:44 PM ET
But no top 6 wingers, and now no draft pick for a top 6 winger....they have to get Jack at least 1 real winger. Getting Dahlin should make a trade easier.

The idea of bringing this core back intact drives me insane.

- Lunaion


the core is about to transform into highly paid secondary pieces which can work while the new "core" is on their ELC which is why moving them for futures doesnt make any sense to me
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 30 @ 8:46 PM ET
I can't find the leafs game on TV
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 30 @ 8:46 PM ET
the core is about to transform into highly paid secondary pieces which can work while the new "core" is on their ELC which is why moving them for futures doesnt make any sense to me
- robz228

I just feel this is blatantly ignoring one of the big reasons changes are needed.

These players do not gel, nor play the type of game the GM and coach want
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:47 PM ET
Ristolainen gets points on the powerplay

Everyone criticizes.

Ignore the fact that Ovechkin would have never even hit 50 goals in a season without the PP.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 30 @ 8:47 PM ET
I am confused
- homiedclown



We’re keeping everyone, bringing Ruff back and using Dahlin the same way they used Ruff (the player).

Top 5 pp
Ror found his passion
Bogo is expected to play a full season
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:48 PM ET
the core is about to transform into highly paid secondary pieces which can work while the new "core" is on their ELC which is why moving them for futures doesnt make any sense to me
- robz228



There's absolutely no rush to move Risto. He benefits from Dahlin more than maybe any other player. ROR will continue to score like he always does, and he has the secondary attributes - no penalties, faceoffs, plays all 3 phases. The sabres need to be patient. Take the right deal if it comes along, but don't rush this thing. Leet it comes together. This weekend was enormous
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Apr 30 @ 8:49 PM ET
I can't find the leafs game on TV
- homiedclown

Try the Golf channel.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 30 @ 8:51 PM ET
the core is about to transform into highly paid secondary pieces which can work while the new "core" is on their ELC which is why moving them for futures doesnt make any sense to me
- robz228

We need 3 top 6 wingers, including 2 top line. RoR's about to transition into our defensive center, and his replacement (Asplund) is very close to NHL ready. There's only a few pieces of value that we can trade. The timing seems right to me, and JB does not sound like a guy bringing this group back largely intact.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 30 @ 8:51 PM ET
Try the Golf channel.
- SABRES 89

nope
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Apr 30 @ 8:51 PM ET
I just feel this is blatantly ignoring one of the big reasons changes are needed.

These players do not gel, nor play the type of game the GM and coach want

- sbroads24



Well said guy
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 30 @ 8:52 PM ET
I just feel this is blatantly ignoring one of the big reasons changes are needed.

These players do not gel, nor play the type of game the GM and coach want

- sbroads24


i am absolutely on board with trading them for 90-95 cents on the dollar for other NHL players
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