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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 2 @ 2:40 PM ET
Pork Roll flavored ice cream, discuss:
- Lawless18


Thank you for not calling it Taylor ham
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

May 2 @ 2:40 PM ET


As opposed to keeping him, and hoping to squeeze a bit more out of him, I'd see what Leier might bring in trade value (3rd, maybe?). Let him have a fresh start and hopefully he takes advantage of it.

- Coleman


I would be shocked if Leier could fetch a 3rd round pick in a trade.
-davies-
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A medical emergency involving you.
Joined: 08.05.2013

May 2 @ 2:43 PM ET

webang you gonna stand for this ?
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 2 @ 2:53 PM ET
webang you gonna stand for this ?
- -davies-

He's tired from baby chasing...
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

May 2 @ 2:59 PM ET
I would be shocked if Leier could fetch a 3rd round pick in a trade.
- MJL


Considering Cousins and Madsen only got a 5th and a prospect who probably will never be signed I would think a 3rd is a pipe dream but who knows, there are dumb GMs out there
kennygarcon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.04.2007

May 2 @ 3:00 PM ET
While the Flyers top 2 lines are in line with most other teams, its the 3rd and 4th lines where you see that extra gear in those six teams. And that is where the Flyers get beat come playoff time.
- MBFlyerfan


I found it strange several folks agreed with you there....check out the +/- in the playoffs. Giroux -10, Ghost -8, Prov - 6, Patrick -5, Voracek -3.

It was the top 6 that were badly outplayed in the playoffs.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

May 2 @ 3:03 PM ET
I found it strange several folks agreed with you there....check out the +/- in the playoffs. Giroux -10, Ghost -8, Prov - 6, Patrick -5, Voracek -3.

It was the top 6 that were badly outplayed in the playoffs.

- kennygarcon


Plus minus isn't the be all end all of hockey statistics that it's made out to be. Willing to bet several of those top 6 were totally spent from even making the playoffs and some from being matched up against Douchebag Crosby.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 2 @ 3:13 PM ET
Been thinking an unhealthy amount about No. 14 and 19 in the draft.

Today -- and I'll probably change my mind 20 times before the draft -- I think they should stay put and make both selections, preferably one of whom is a scoring forward with serious skating ability and hockey sense.

Like many of us watching the playoffs, we all realize the truth: While the Flyers aren't slow, there is another gear in play with maybe six of the final eight teams. I wouldn't mind if the Flyers added another first-round talent to their forward corps -- hopefully soon -- who can match the pace that we're seeing

- AllInForFlyers

I'm hoping both players are forwards. I'm hoping one or the other is known for their leathal shot and one or the other has decent size.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

May 2 @ 3:19 PM ET
I'm hoping both players are forwards. I'm hoping one or the other is known for their leathal shot and one or the other has decent size.
- SuperSchennBros

They took 3 forwards in the first 35 picks last season. With two picks in the first 20 I'd like to see one of them be a defenseman.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

May 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
I'm hoping both players are forwards. I'm hoping one or the other is known for their leathal shot and one or the other has decent size.
- SuperSchennBros


I don't think you're going to get a prospect known for his lethal shot outside the top 8 to be completely honest
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 2 @ 3:20 PM ET
They took 3 forwards in the first 35 picks last season. With two picks in the first 20 I'd like to see one of them be a defenseman.
- mayorofangrytown

Agree...They need another top D prospect (though they have made some good late picks on defensemen recently)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 2 @ 3:37 PM ET
my buddy apparently just heard about what Hextall said during his exit interview...so it kind of restarted the conversation

the part specifically about what Hextall is looking for (player personnel) next season. He said he wants a veteran center and a bottom 6 forward that can PK. Obviously that can be acquired in a trade, but using the reference that we have we can assume he is looking for some combination of Boyd Gordon/PEB/Dale Weise? Consider me unimpressed and slightly worried.

My current short list would be:
Tomas Nosek (will be RFA)
Antoine Roussel (shorter term than Weise please)
Riley Nash (worried he will price out)
mild mild Jay Beagle interest
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
I am also pretty against the idea of using one of the first rounders to trade for a player that can help us now
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 2 @ 3:47 PM ET
I am also pretty against the idea of using one of the first rounders to trade for a player that can help us now
- YuenglingJagr


I am too but What if it’s Hoffman or Stone?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 2 @ 3:51 PM ET
I am too but What if it’s Hoffman or Stone?
- arichardson22

If it is for Stone I take back everything I said. I am in love with Mark Stone (not quite Barzal/Sanheim love, but still true love)
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 2 @ 3:52 PM ET
I am also pretty against the idea of using one of the first rounders to trade for a player that can help us now
- YuenglingJagr


Not sure if a blanket statement is valid here. If they use a first on a player that supports the value, then go with it. You can’t build a champion with nothing but draft choices. It takes a few hockey trades for the right players as well.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 2 @ 3:54 PM ET
Not sure if a blanket statement is valid here. If they use a first on a player that supports the value, then go with it. You can’t build a champion with nothing but draft choices. It takes a few hockey trades for the right players as well.
- Hokeeguy9

I am not denying that theory, just denying that the time for the Flyers to do that is now
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 2 @ 3:57 PM ET
P R E D A T O R Y
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

May 2 @ 4:03 PM ET
I am not denying that theory, just denying that the time for the Flyers to do that is now
- YuenglingJagr


Not being a Richard. I’m just wondering who you think makes that much of impact on this team at 19 to stay in the draft, and not look for a 3c or top nine wing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

May 2 @ 4:06 PM ET
I have no idea what the joke is, but I'm tired of it already.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 4:10 PM ET
I am not denying that theory, just denying that the time for the Flyers to do that is now
- YuenglingJagr


What if they trade #19 for that Conner Davidson guy? Or the Matthew Austin kid?
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
I don't want to mow
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
I don't want to mow
- Giroux_Is_God


Mow lawns, mow money, mow ladies
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

May 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
Thank you for not calling it Taylor ham
- Scoob

Agreed.

That is just stupid

"Can you pass the Heinz"
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

May 2 @ 4:11 PM ET
I don't want to mow
- Giroux_Is_God

So don’t.
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