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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
Does anybody know what happens if Moulson retires?

It may be a real possibility. His cap hit is $5m, but he's only making $1.6 in real money (or something close). With his career earnings, it may not even be worth it to him to continue

- jcragcrumple


Maybe the rest of his prorated signing bonus would hit us this year,
but i think that’s it

No Cap recapture or anything like that
We signed him before he was 35
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
I just looked, he gets a $1m signing bonus on July 1, then has a $2m base salary. He may collect the bonus and retire
- jcragcrumple


Like I said, fairly certain we take a penalty for him doing that.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
Akil Thomas please
- Mentalorgasm5


Good pick, but he'll go somewhere in the 20s IMO.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 3 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think we get hit with a cap recapture penalty. If he goes that route, it wouldn't be such a bad thing.
- Lunaion


Why?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 3 @ 2:41 PM ET
I agree
Moulson was a good sport getting buried last year & not complaining
It’s just a class move to give him a chance to move on
Especially since, like u point out, there’s no real financial damage to us in the process

- jdfitz77



Moulson's a good sport that's not good at the sport.

He should keep his mouth shut to be paid 5 million for ZERO nhl goals last season. (14 games)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 3 @ 2:42 PM ET
Maybe the rest of his prorated signing bonus would hit us this year,
but i think that’s it

No Cap recapture or anything like that
We signed him before he was 35

- jdfitz77



That's what I thought. Maybe the move to send him to the Reign where he wanted to play was a goodwill gesture. "Thanks, Matt. Enjoy the year and your signing bonus, and bon voyage"
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 3 @ 2:42 PM ET
I already have
And like i said...
a raise for Dahlin wouldn’t kick in till year FOUR

You said 2-3yrs
By the time Dahlin is due, we have a lot of $$$ off the books
Plus the Cap will keep going up
I assure you, we are “fine”

- jdfitz77


I meant after 2-3 seasons....when Mittelstadt's next deal kicks in and then Dahlin.

Project it if you want. I have and it's tight.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 3 @ 2:46 PM ET
Maybe the rest of his prorated signing bonus would hit us this year,
but i think that’s it

No Cap recapture or anything like that
We signed him before he was 35

- jdfitz77


Checked the rule, cap recapture wouldn't apply because it's only a 5 year deal.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 3 @ 2:47 PM ET
Checked the rule, cap recapture wouldn't apply because it's only a 5 year deal.
- Lunaion


So the question is whether it's worth it for Moulson to play a whole year in the minors riding the bus for $2m (after the signing bonus)
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 3 @ 2:49 PM ET
Anyone have an idea of who'd they like to see or what position they'd like to see picked at #32?
- sskkoo1


Adam Ginning (D) or Vitali Kravtsov (RW)
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 3 @ 2:49 PM ET
Good pick, but he'll go somewhere in the 20s IMO.
- RhinoFan

move back into the first. I think he will be a steal at the end of the draft. Similar to Konecny was for the Flyers.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
Adam Ginning (D) or Vitali Kravtsov (RW)
- TheSabresTaco



rasmus sandin, and you know exactly why.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 3 @ 2:50 PM ET
Adam Ginning (D) or Vitali Kravtsov (RW)
- TheSabresTaco

I think Kravtsov is good bet to go top 20 now.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 3 @ 2:51 PM ET
rasmus sandin, and you know exactly why.
- Sabresfan-365

I think he might be gone as well. I’d take the top available forward they have on their board.
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 3 @ 2:51 PM ET
So the question is whether it's worth it for Moulson to play a whole year in the minors riding the bus for $2m (after the signing bonus)
- jcragcrumple

ill ride a bus for 2 mil next year
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 3 @ 2:52 PM ET
I think he might be gone as well. I’d take the top available forward they have on their board.
- Pegullaville



i was mostly kidding cause we have to corner the market on rasmus'


id probably go with Bokk or Kaut
IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 3 @ 2:53 PM ET
rasmus sandin, and you know exactly why.
- Sabresfan-365

can we have a team of rasmusi?

we could get the call of rasmus to rasmus to rasmus for the goal....

not as good as what would have been malarchuck to anderchuck to hawerchuck.. but still good
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
can we have a team of rasmusi?

we could get the call of rasmus to rasmus to rasmus for the goal....

not as good as what would have been malarchuck to anderchuck to hawerchuck.. but still good

- IndianaSabresFan


"a herd of rasmi start up ice!"
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 3 @ 2:54 PM ET
rasmus sandin, and you know exactly why.
- Sabresfan-365


I assume so the defense team of Rasmus and Rasmus can either be named:

The Defense Team of Rasmus, Rasmus and Rasmus

The RasCrew

The Rasmi

The R Gang

The SweeDs - I'm retracting that because Risto is not a Swede.

RRRasmus!
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 3 @ 2:55 PM ET
ill ride a bus for 2 mil next year
- IndianaSabresFan



He's made around $38m in his career. I don't know that it would be worth it to him. Maybe though
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
Moulson's a good sport that's not good at the sport.

He should keep his mouth shut to be paid 5 million for ZERO nhl goals last season. (14 games)

- Boss34


Ok...
but that doesn’t really mean we shouldn’t still be classy & buy him out
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 3 @ 2:56 PM ET
i was mostly kidding cause we have to corner the market on rasmus'


id probably go with Bokk or Kaut

- Sabresfan-365


Big fan of Bokk.. if his consistency improves.

I like Ty Dellandrea too. Massive riser. And that's punny.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 3 @ 2:57 PM ET
Checked the rule, cap recapture wouldn't apply because it's only a 5 year deal.
- Lunaion


And wouldn’t he have had to be 35+ when signing the deal?
Or am i thinking of something else?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 3 @ 2:58 PM ET
Ok...
but that doesn’t really mean we shouldn’t still be classy & buy him out

- jdfitz77


Depends on what Matt wants. If he likes playing for the Reign, let him play. If team x and/or y says, if you BO Moulson we'd like to sign him, and he has interest in going to team x or y, I believe the classy thing to do is buy him out.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 3 @ 2:59 PM ET
I meant after 2-3 seasons....when Mittelstadt's next deal kicks in and then Dahlin.

Project it if you want. I have and it's tight.

- Lunaion


I guess it depends how much i think these guys are gonna get

I’m pretty sure we’ll be ok
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