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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Does Rasmus Dahlin change the Sabres' off-season equation?
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RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
It's funny that people still appeal to authority as if these teams never make mistakes ever
- Sabresfan-365


Teams make mistakes every year...like the Sabres trading Evander Kane for peanuts, that was a mistake. I recognize it, I'm just tired of running the good players out of town.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
I have to give credit where it's due, you aren't here to talk hockey, and I wouldn't have it any other way
- sbroads24

Jochfr doesn't know hockey.
BernardShakey
Joined: 08.16.2016

May 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
Not sure of the value of ROR. Decent player but overpriced at 7.5m given his annual production. He’d be a great #3 centre on a cup bound team. Problem is, cup bound teams can ill afford the luxury.
Any trade is unlikely to realize full player value as ROR is overpaid by 2-3m a year.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 2:16 PM ET
Ilya Sorokin reportedly doesn't want to sign with the New York Islanders as long as Garth Snow is the team's general manager.

Take that report with a grain of salt, but it would certainly be an interesting development if that were the case. The Islanders took Sorokin with the 78th overall pick in the 2014 NHL Entry Draft and since then he's developed into a star in the KHL. He had a 1.61 GAA and .929 save percentage in 39 games in 2017-18. It's worth noting that he's still under contract in the KHL and while he could buy that contract out if he really wanted to play in the NHL, it is another factor in all of this. In other words, even if he doesn't head to North America to play for the Islanders in the near future, it doesn't necessarily say anything about his opinion on Snow. Similarly, even if the Islanders hired a new general manager - which isn't expected to happen this summer - it wouldn't necessarily lead to Sorokin heading to North America.


Per Roto World
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Did we get Olli
- SABRES 89

RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Not sure of the value of ROR. Decent player but overpriced at 7.5m given his annual production. He’d be a great #3 centre on a cup bound team. Problem is, cup bound teams can ill afford the luxury.
Any trade is unlikely to realize full player value as ROR is overpaid by 2-3m a year.

- BernardShakey


Major Sporting News Outlets: Ryan O'Reilly has real trade value
Bernard: He doesn't have trade value

Thanks for another Shakey Opinion.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
Honestly, if guys like Baptiste and Bailey are back down on the farm in favor signing more Pouliot types, I'll be disappointed.

The kids have to graduate at some point. Time to start seeing what they can do. I'm 100% on board with a youth movement and looking at the average age of some of the successful, young NHL teams, we're right about on pace.

Guhle, Nelson, Baptiste, Bailey, and Smith should all be up here next year.

- RhinoFan


It's easy to say the kids have to graduate, but they have all had opportunities and it's on them. Nelson took advantage of it, Baptiste and Bailey haven't. Guhle and Smith are still waiver exempt and will continue to get opportunities. They should all face real competition in camp.

I'd like to see Baptiste or Bailey included in a trade this summer.
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 4 @ 2:18 PM ET
I hope someone ties cinder blocks to your ankle and you fall in over your head
- homiedclown


I'd rather be stuck on a chair with a cinder block tied to my ankle and watching fan duel and draft kings commercials over and over and over again, than watch the sabres.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Teams make mistakes every year...like the Sabres trading Evander Kane for peanuts, that was a mistake. I recognize it, I'm just tired of running the good players out of town.
- RhinoFan



or trading everything for him and bogo? There's two problems with that line of thinking

a)there's a major difference between running someone out of town, and making the team better

for example, the leafs ran sundin out of town, we traded vanek to make our future better

b)The fact that teams would still pay a high price for a guy with a huge cap hit producing like a 2nd/3rd liner at non powerplay game states is something a good gm would take advantage of.

Literally how New Jersey rebuilt itself from ashes. By taking advantage of the cap and a moron in edmonton.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
I'd rather go feed ducks at the pond than watch the sabres.
- rawwdogg88


Enjoy your middling team.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 4 @ 2:22 PM ET

- homiedclown

God damn it, we didn't did we
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
I'd rather be stuck on a chair with a cinder block tied to my ankle and watching fan duel and draft kings commercials over and over and over again, than watch the sabres.
- rawwdogg88


I'd rather live in the arctic than NJ.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'd rather be stuck on a chair with a cinder block tied to my ankle and watching fan duel and draft kings commercials over and over and over again, than watch the sabres.
- rawwdogg88



Kinky
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Enjoy your middling team.
- TheSabresTaco


Middling? This was just the first step of a long, long run of playoff appearances and a cup in 2020.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 4 @ 2:23 PM ET
Middling? This was just the first step of a long, long run of playoff appearances and a cup in 2020.
- rawwdogg88



Isn't that the year of the pending lockout?
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 4 @ 2:24 PM ET
It's easy to say the kids have to graduate, but they have all had opportunities and it's on them. Nelson took advantage of it, Baptiste and Bailey haven't. Guhle and Smith are still waiver exempt and will continue to get opportunities. They should all face real competition in camp.

I'd like to see Baptiste or Bailey included in a trade this summer.

- Lunaion


To say Baptiste got a chance but didn't take advantage is simply not factual. He scored two goals in a game and then went back to 4th line, then the press box the next night in favor of Jordan Nolan.

And Nelson only got a look because we were so depleted due to injuries. Otherwise he would have stayed on the farm wasting away...instead of being our 3rd best defender on the big club.

Yeah, kids need to graduate. It is easy to say AND do.
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
I'd rather live in the arctic than NJ.
- TheSabresTaco


Well, there's not much substance to that statement if you live in buffalo. You're practically in the arctic already.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
It's funny how teams would be willing to pay up big time for players we can't wait to get rid of. Silly.
- RhinoFan


What sillier:
- having your team finish 31st with players who apparently are problem child’s, but fans wanting to keep the same roster
- expecting teams to trade the Sabres gems for their castoffs
- focusing on changing the bottom 6 and bottom pairings when the team
A) was the lowest scoring team in the league
B) had one of if not the biggest goal differential
C) is stocked at center, yet has zero LWs and one RW who can produce

Where is the help coming from the?

I know you aren’t saying trade Larssons for Patrick Laine ... but how would you suggest filling so many holes without burning through 3 - 4 more years of Jack or acquiring studs like Moulson, Pommer and Okposo?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
Middling? This was just the first step of a long, long run of playoff appearances and a cup in 2020.
- rawwdogg88



c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

May 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
[quote=rawwdogg88]Well, there's not much substance to that statement if you live in buffalo. You're practically in the arctic already.
- c1067


Does your mom know you are home from school trolling people on Hockey Buzz?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
To say Baptiste got a chance but didn't take advantage is simply not factual. He scored two goals in a game and then went back to 4th line, then the press box the next night in favor of Jordan Nolan.

And Nelson only got a look because we were so depleted due to injuries. Otherwise he would have stayed on the farm wasting away...instead of being our 3rd best defender on the big club.

Yeah, kids need to graduate. It is easy to say AND do.

- RhinoFan


He's had 3 years and 47 NHL games. Why suggest that's not an opportunity? He plays terrible defense and it's a big issue for him playing higher in the lineup. He plays himself down to the 4th line.

I think you know they aren't going to load up on kids and will bring in some vets.
bblaine
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.07.2013

May 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Certainly one of the (many) ripple effects of Dahlin is commanding better return from any traded player. Re: ROR, maybe he fetches even more at the trade deadline, after a) Mittelstadt has played most of an AHL season as #1C, and b) we have payed most of ROR's 18-19 salary.
rawwdogg88
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.18.2013

May 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Does your mom know you are home from school trolling people on Hockey Buzz?
- c1067


Come on bro, you can do better than that.
Khmylev
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'll take some olives on my pizza!, NY
Joined: 03.13.2015

May 4 @ 2:33 PM ET
It’s so damn hot
- gerbe75pts

c1067
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 12.08.2006

May 4 @ 2:33 PM ET
Come on bro, you can do better than that.
- rawwdogg88

So can you. Go on another thread and talk your junk there.
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