Buffalo Bills

QB: AJ McCarron
RB: LeSean McCoy
WR: Kelvin Benjamin
WR: Zay Jones
WR: Jeremy Kerley
TE: Charles Clay
LT: Dion Dawkins
LG: John Miller
C: Russell Bodine
RG: Vladimir Ducasse
RT: Jordan Mills

DE: Jerry Hughes
DT: Star Lotulelei
DT: Kyle Williams
DE: Trent Murphy
OLB: Matt Milano
MLB: Tremaine Edmunds
OLB: Lorenzo Alexander
CB: Tre'Davious White
CB: Vontae Davis
S: Micah Hyde
S: Jordan Poyer

Looking at it on paper Jesus I don't want to be mr. negative but I think we're going to be drafted first overall which is a good thing

http://www.nfl.com/news/s...deep-sam-darnold-to-start

Not sure if serious
- gerbe75pts

???
I’d say that is a great combination.

Duds wants O'Reilly.

So basically with the advanced technology we have these days he probably would have been the greatest of all time ( better than Gretzky) ?

Thank you for your story btw
- gerbe75pts

He was an amazing skater and puck handler . Even with the shortened career he is still the greatest defense man of all time . He might have been the greatest of all time but it is a tough call with his career being cut short . Longevity is a big factor . One of the reasons Gordie Howe is still near the top.

I want them to build a cup team. Not just one to sneak into the playoffs.

Sell high while he has good value and build for 2 years down the road
- sbroads24

Ror strikes me as a long run playoff guy.
Hopefully the love of the game is there.

If his value has hit a peak, and there is value coming back, sure trade him.

???
I’d say that is a great combination.
- IonSabres

Dudley's not the GM btw it's Don Waddell

And you have Rod Brind'amour who can't even draw up a simple power play to score a goal and they make him the coach lol haha

Dudley is terrible also not what he used to be

If I was a Carolina fan I'd be pretty much crying in the corner

Oh they are
http://hfboards.mandatory...named-head-coach.2489089/

Buffalo Bills

QB: AJ McCarron
RB: LeSean McCoy
WR: Kelvin Benjamin
WR: Zay Jones
WR: Jeremy Kerley
TE: Charles Clay
LT: Dion Dawkins
LG: John Miller
C: Russell Bodine
RG: Vladimir Ducasse
RT: Jordan Mills

DE: Jerry Hughes
DT: Star Lotulelei
DT: Kyle Williams
DE: Trent Murphy
OLB: Matt Milano
MLB: Tremaine Edmunds
OLB: Lorenzo Alexander
CB: Tre'Davious White
CB: Vontae Davis
S: Micah Hyde
S: Jordan Poyer

Looking at it on paper Jesus I don't want to be mr. negative but I think we're going to be drafted first overall which is a good thing

http://www.nfl.com/news/s...deep-sam-darnold-to-start
- gerbe75pts

Defense will be improved.
But that Offense won’t put up more than 13 points on average.
The right side of the O-line sucked already, now they have gaping holes at center and LG.
That translates to lots of hurry’s for McCarron, holding Shady back to protect on any passing downs, and the opposing D stacking the line to shut down Shady’s running.

I stand by my 4-12 prediction a day or two ago...cause a blind squirrel finds a win or four

Dudley's not the GM btw it's Don Waddell

And you have Rod Brind'amour who can't even draw up a simple power play to score a goal and they make him the coach lol haha

Dudley is terrible also not what he used to be

If I was a Carolina fan I'd be pretty much crying in the corner

Oh they are
http://hfboards.mandatory...named-head-coach.2489089/
- gerbe75pts

Well, Sr VP of Ops...he’ll have his hand In it big time.
I like the moves.

Buffalo Bills

QB: AJ McCarron
RB: LeSean McCoy
WR: Kelvin Benjamin
WR: Zay Jones
WR: Jeremy Kerley
TE: Charles Clay
LT: Dion Dawkins
LG: John Miller
C: Russell Bodine
RG: Vladimir Ducasse
RT: Jordan Mills

DE: Jerry Hughes
DT: Star Lotulelei
DT: Kyle Williams
DE: Trent Murphy
OLB: Matt Milano
MLB: Tremaine Edmunds
OLB: Lorenzo Alexander
CB: Tre'Davious White
CB: Vontae Davis
S: Micah Hyde
S: Jordan Poyer

Looking at it on paper Jesus I don't want to be mr. negative but I think we're going to be drafted first overall which is a good thing

http://www.nfl.com/news/s...deep-sam-darnold-to-start
- gerbe75pts

Really tough schedule to start as well. I don't think we are drafting top5 next year, but it will be close. I can't see this as a playoff lineup unless our defense is miraculously brilliant.

5 wins...6?

Well, Sr VP of Ops...he’ll have his hand I need it big time.
I like the moves.
- IonSabres

You might be the only fan ( if you were a Carolina fan) that likes this

Even bingo the biggest Homer ever hates this he's about to cry

Really tough schedule to start as well. I don't think we are drafting top5 next year, but it will be close. I can't see this as a playoff lineup unless our defense is miraculously brilliant.

5 wins...6?
- RhinoFan

It's going to be a painful year on offense

I might watch the first game and decide if I'm just going to skip the year and start fresh next year

You might be the only fan ( if you were a Carolina fan) that likes this

Even bingo the biggest Homer ever hates this he's about to cry
- gerbe75pts

Meh, no fan of Carolina.
But if the fans are in an uproar, we’ll it is probably good then.

I'm kind of curious why no one's talking about Brady tkachuk staying

This basically could shake up the draft at around 4

Meh, no fan of Carolina.
But if the fans are in an uproar, we’ll it is probably good then.
- IonSabres

quote=BINGO!]Don Waddell turned Ilya Kovalchuk, Pascal Dupuis, Anssi Salmela and Marian Hossa into:

Niclas Bergfors
Patrice Cormier
Johnny Oduya
Colby Armstrong
Erik Christensen
Angelo Esposito
1st Round Pick
1st Round Pick
2nd Round pick

A bunch of busts, a couple depth guys, and some draft picks that didn't work out.


Sounds like Murray's brother

It's going to be a painful year on offense

I might watch the first game and decide if I'm just going to skip the year and start fresh next year
- gerbe75pts

You're smarter than me, I'll be watching either way. Sabres have made me immune to losing woes.

[quote=gerbe75pts]

So they hate Duds and B’A, but they cite poopty moves by Waddell?
Maybe Duds comes in and dumps Waddell after a bit.

I'm kind of curious why no one's talking about Brady tkachuk staying

This basically could shake up the draft at around 4
- gerbe75pts

Personally, I thought Z, Dahlin and Svech were the only ones rumored to be ready to jump right in (potentially).

Does 32 and Nylander get the Sabres Mike Hoffman? He would make our left side look a lot better

Edit: maybe the sharks 2nd also?

Does 32 and Nylander get the Sabres Mike Hoffman? He would make our left side look a lot better

Edit: maybe the sharks 2nd also?
- jcragcrumple

Depends on Ottawa's current modus operandi. If they are just selling off, then that's a pretty darn good offer even without SJ's pick.

Also depends what Nylander's value is around the league. A recent, former, 8OA and the first pick of the 2nd round should have decent value.

Part of it is that 32, this year, should be a decent prospect. Low 20s in other drafts even.

Personally, I thought Z, Dahlin and Svech were the only ones rumored to be ready to jump right in (potentially).
- RhinoFan

Every Scout basically said he was NHL ready so this is pretty shocking news to me

But this is good news for us if we can get the four or five we could possibly land him


And draft Jake wise in the 3rd

Does 32 and Nylander get the Sabres Mike Hoffman? He would make our left side look a lot better

Edit: maybe the sharks 2nd also?
- jcragcrumple

We have to see if we can get the second or third with nylander in the package first

Now all of us trade believers have no idea who the trade for left D or Right lol

If he plays the same side as ristolainen then we can draw up some trade proposals




- gerbe75pts

The only person who needs to know the answer to that question is JBotts, and he doesn't need to get that information from WGR.

Depends on Ottawa's current modus operandi. If they are just selling off, then that's a pretty darn good offer even without SJ's pick.

Also depends what Nylander's value is around the league. A recent, former, 8OA and the first pick of the 2nd round should have decent value.

Part of it is that 32, this year, should be a decent prospect. Low 20s in other drafts even.
- RhinoFan

I wonder too. It's probably too soon for the "reclamation project" title, but...

I would make the move. It would get us a decent top-9

Hoffman-Eichel-Okposo
Smith-ROR-Reinhart
Erod-Mittlestadt-Baptiste

Every Scout basically said he was NHL ready so this is pretty shocking news to me

But this is good news for us if we can get the four or five we could possibly land him


And draft Jake wise in the 3rd
- gerbe75pts

Didn't know the first. I was starting to look into 2nd and 3rd round targets, I'll look at Wise, don't know anything about him really.

I wonder too. It's probably too soon for the "reclamation project" title, but...

I would make the move. It would get us a decent top-9

Hoffman-Eichel-Okposo
Smith-ROR-Reinhart
Erod-Mittlestadt-Baptiste
- jcragcrumple

Still some holes, but that looks better than what we had at the start of last season by a country mile.