The argument is third rounders and you just spin it lol
- gerbe75pts

yes... to show that you can if you try hard enough to make an argument for every round.. LOL... ahhhhhh

there is not one defensemen picked 1st overall left in the playoffs we should not select Dahlin..

3rd round picks aren't useless. But they're lottery tickets. Every draft, there's between 2 and 3 impact NHL players in the third round, and it almost always takes them multiple years to reach the NHL.

Crying about using a 3rd round pick on an NHL ready player is asinine. If it doesn't work out, so be it. But the chances of even seeing the player in the NHL is small, and the chances we see that third round pick in the NHL before 3 years is even smaller.

So rolling the dice on a guy that can step right in as opposed to essentially living on a prayer is (frank)ing fine.
- TheSabresTaco

but... but.... but... 3 players who no longer are in the playoffs had a lot of points and they were selected in the 3rd round..

With Vegas not even using Tomas Tatar
Anyone think he could be available again
- gerbe75pts

nah.. he was selected in the 2nd round.. we only like 3rd rounders here

It’s ironic how Pegula will shell out $42 Million for Okposo but we still have one of the smallest scouting departments in the league. Invest $10 Million in bringing in an additional 20-30 scouts and player development and we might be able to find some late round gems.

nah.. he was selected in the 2nd round.. we only like 3rd rounders here
- IndianaSabresFan

Should of taken the two late firsts early this year for Kane as well but according to those on here we don’t need those either....

The argument is third rounders and you just spin it lol
- gerbe75pts

let's play a game

how many 3rd round picks have made an impact for the sabres between the 2000 draft and 2015 draft


Clarke MacArthur
Andrej Sekera
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Corey Tropp
Corey Fienhage
Brayden McNabb
Matt Mackenzie
Kevin Sundher
Daniel Catenacci
Justin Kea
Nick Baptiste
Brycen Martin
Jonas Johansson


I count 3 guys worth more than 10 minutes on the ice in an nhl game, with Baptiste on the fence


looking at 1990-1999 we had max, that's it



http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005054.html

but... but.... but... 3 players who no longer are in the playoffs had a lot of points and they were selected in the 3rd round..
- IndianaSabresFan

let's play a game

how many 3rd round picks have made an impact for the sabres between the 2000 draft and 2015 draft


Clarke MacArthur
Andrej Sekera
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Corey Tropp
Corey Fienhage
Brayden McNabb
Matt Mackenzie
Kevin Sundher
Daniel Catenacci
Justin Kea
Nick Baptiste
Brycen Martin
Jonas Johansson


I count 3 guys worth more than 10 minutes on the ice in an nhl game, with Baptiste on the fence


looking at 1990-1999 we had max, that's it



http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005054.html
- homiedclown

Yeah but 3rd round picks

Super quick release. I think he would mesh well with Jack.
And I got to say, Ads all over european uni's are tacky as fvck,
- seedy

The banner ad where the name plate goes is super annoying. Every player is named Fjôrdström

which one of those three players you named is still in the playoffs?

i bet you could name a crap load of 1st and 2nd rounders who are doing well in the playoffs too....
- IndianaSabresFan

No no
Sabres should trade their 1st for a 3rd!

No no
Sabres should trade their 1st for a 3rd!
- IonSabres

there is not 1 first overall defenseman left in the playoffs.. i would trade that pick for a 3rd

The banner ad where the name plate goes is super annoying. Every player is named Fjôrdström
- jcragcrumple

yeah that is annoying

let me be very clear on one thing


I am a grown man who does not need help from you



- homiedclown

Why didn’t you do that then

yes... to show that you can if you try hard enough to make an argument for every round.. LOL... ahhhhhh

there is not one defensemen picked 1st overall left in the playoffs we should not select Dahlin..
- IndianaSabresFan

That’s because they don’t get picked first overall

Statistically speaking, 3rd rounders:
- have 24-32% chance of playing 100 NHL games
- have about 85% chance of being a 4th liner
- have about a 8 - 8.5% chance of playing top six, top 4 D

I will say however, that after the 3rd round, those stats fall off rather quickly...so value wise, there can certainly be some gems as Gerbe identified.
But over all, 85% chance they will be close to being out of the NHL soon.

Would be interesting to see how many 3rd round picks are on non- playoff teams vs playoff teams. Could we guess that those teams have more 2nd and 3rd rounders than #1’s ... hmmm?

The argument is third rounders and you just spin it lol
- gerbe75pts

You're missing the point, which is, it doesn't matter whether you draft the player in the third round, or if you you use the pick to acquire a player using the third, if the player is an NHL regular, it's a very good use of an asset.

Just think of it as if we selected Scandella in the third round. Pretty good pick!

Beaulieu, on the other hand...

Statistically speaking, 3rd rounders:
- have 24-32% chance of playing 100 NHL games
- have about 85% chance of being a 4th liner
- have about a 8 - 8.5% chance of playing top six, top 4 D

I will say however, that after the 3rd round, those stats fall off rather quickly...so value wise, there can certainly be some gems as Gerbe identified.
But over all, 85% chance they will be close to being out of the NHL soon.

Would be interesting to see how many 3rd round picks are on non- playoff teams vs playoff teams. Could we guess that those teams have more 2nd and 3rd rounders than #1’s ... hmmm?
- IonSabres

Whoever does the analysis, the 3rd rounders must be home grown. Not UFAs or trades.

You're missing the point, which is, it doesn't matter whether you draft the player in the third round, or if you you use the pick to acquire a player using the third, if the player is an NHL regular, it's a very good use of an asset.

Just think of it as if we selected Scandella in the third round. Pretty good pick!

Beaulieu, on the other hand...
- jcragcrumple

Ion did a nice job finding the basic stats for third rounders. It's less than a 10% chance you get an impact player, and even if you hit, they're years down the line.

I'm definitely not saying throw them away, but using them on an NHL ready guy is statistically better than using the pick itself.

That’s because they don’t get picked first overall
- gerbe75pts

exactly.. so we shouldn't do it.. thank you for making my absurd point

exactly.. so we shouldn't do it.. thank you for making my absurd point
- IndianaSabresFan

...

Whoever does the analysis, the 3rd rounders must be home grown. Not UFAs or trades.
- TheSabresTaco

I guess I need more clarification on your point.

Success rate of draft picks from 1993 through 2013...20 years.
Does not include trades in which a 3rd was used, if that is what you are getting at.

Ion did a nice job finding the basic stats for third rounders. It's less than a 10% chance you get an impact player, and even if you hit, they're years down the line.

I'm definitely not saying throw them away, but using them on an NHL ready guy is statistically better than using the pick itself.
- TheSabresTaco

That is the point, to be sure.

let's play a game

how many 3rd round picks have made an impact for the sabres between the 2000 draft and 2015 draft


Clarke MacArthur
Andrej Sekera
Marc-Andre Gragnani
Corey Tropp
Corey Fienhage
Brayden McNabb
Matt Mackenzie
Kevin Sundher
Daniel Catenacci
Justin Kea
Nick Baptiste
Brycen Martin
Jonas Johansson


I count 3 guys worth more than 10 minutes on the ice in an nhl game, with Baptiste on the fence


looking at 1990-1999 we had max, that's it



http://www.hockeydb.com/i...aft/teams/dr00005054.html
- homiedclown

It’s OK to ask from the superior generation

So just because our past gm / scouts make mistakes in the third round means we should never draft in the 3rd

Let’s not forget your Sekera was picked there and your pu [/img]

Should of taken the two late firsts early this year for Kane as well but according to those on here we don’t need those either....
- Pegullaville

Yep 👍 buttttttt people said nooooooo let’s keep him when he got hot

...
- gerbe75pts

there are 2 1st overall d men in the NHL.. neither team made the playoffs.. we should pick a d man.. we need a 3rd rounder.

between 1992 and 1996 3 dmen were selected 1st overall.. none ever won the cup..