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Forget the specific names for those we already know aren’t a part of the team going forward like Pommer, Girgs, Larson, Bogo, etc...
Their contracts are included until their contract runs out...then are replaced with lower cost players such as Asplund, Pu, Pilut, Bustlander, ...the pipeline which is generally on an ELC. - IonSabres
I hope you've realized that you haven't just replaced Pommer, etc. with Asplund, etc. You've also replaced Asplund, etc. with yet another wave of cheap players. Realistically, a few of these guys will play well enough to deserve a reasonable second deal. |
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sbroads24
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I agree with you there.
If we move the 2 contracts that are most often brought up, ROR and Okposo, then you could fit it.
But those two produced 105 points last year for $13.5 (on a bad year for Okposo, and you'd be spending $12m for between 66-85 points for JT.
I just don't see how any of it makes sense - jcragcrumple
Sure, but you are also subtracting two and only adding one. There would be another forward in Okposo’s place.
I know you hate just 5 on 5 #’s, but Tavares is scoring more than them two combined almost, then add another cheap forward, and even at minimal production makes it an improvement |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I don’t disagree that it might be a bad idea to sign him, but the production is the least of the concerns.
It just boils down to whether you can have more than 2 extremely high salaries and compete for a cup, and I think Eichel and Dahlin are the two you absolutely will be paying.
However, if JT would sign, I would be moving players for picks left and right to stock the cupboards with cheap role players on rookie deals. - sbroads24
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Not terrible, just not world beaters
Kovi Eichel Reinhart
ROR Tavares Okposo
Bailey Mittelstadt Baptiste
Wilson Erod Girgensons
Dahlin Guhle
Risto Scandella
Nelson McCabe
Ullmark
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That's a playoff team IMO.
I don't think its affordable though cause you're looking at adding $19 million in salary with Tavares and Kovi
ROR would absolutely have to get dealt and have to get someone cheap to replace him. - Stripes77
Lol
If adding just JT was problematic, oh boy adding Kovi is impossible. |
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jcragcrumple
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Sure, but you are also subtracting two and only adding one. There would be another forward in Okposo’s place.
I know you hate just 5 on 5 #’s, but Tavares is scoring more than them two combined almost, then add another cheap forward, and even at minimal production makes it an improvement - sbroads24
The forward in Okposo's place is making $1.5, in order to equal that $13.5 number, so basically you're adding a Girgensons. Either that, or you're adding even more salary, and a longer contract with enormous expectations, and you're paying him more than your franchise center, and we have Mittelstadt at center. It's so much risk for a player at a position of strength, where we already have redundancies. Like I said, a big time winger like Kucherov, by all means, open the pocket book. I just think JT is the wrong guy at the wrong time
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Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Lol
If adding just JT was problematic, oh boy adding Kovi is impossible. - IonSabres
The difference is Kovi's deal would be a 2 year 3 year max deal. I mean he is 35 already.
So before Dahlin's contract kicks in he is gone
But if you moved ROR and bought out Bogosian you have no issues short term and better long term, better but not there yet |
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Wetbandit1
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Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY Joined: 10.07.2010
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Forget the specific names for those we already know aren’t a part of the team going forward like Pommer, Girgs, Larson, Bogo, etc...
Their contracts are included until their contract runs out...then are replaced with lower cost players such as Asplund, Pu, Pilut, Bustlander, ...the pipeline which is generally on an ELC.
The point was squeezing Johnny T in is doable when you sit down and do the math
Yes, there will be some replacements. - IonSabres
I was just looking at the money, you'd have to get insanely lucky. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I will stalk Megan Fox as well if we sign JT |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I will stalk Megan Fox as well if we sign JT - homiedclown
I can help.
She’ll be at my house |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I will stalk Megan Fox as well if we sign JT - homiedclown
I talked to her a couple years back at regency village premier we compared thumbs
And yes she’s a 10 |
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jdfitz77
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Sure, but you are also subtracting two and only adding one. There would be another forward in Okposo’s place.
I know you hate just 5 on 5 #’s, but Tavares is scoring more than them two combined almost, then add another cheap forward, and even at minimal production makes it an improvement - sbroads24
Tavares also likely gets stuck in more defensive situations than he was in NyI
As much as u refose to admit it,
it would likely have an effect on his 5v5 production
I’d still sign him in a heartbeat though
Is there any kind of rumor to this,
or u guys just spitballing? |
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IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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I was just looking at the money, you'd have to get insanely lucky. - Wetbandit1
You missed quite a bit of back an forth...I added in a 3.25% salary increase annually to account for Salary growth in line with the anticipated Cap increase.
I mean, the Cap is a hard stop, so it can’t be exceeded obviously.
Given that, certain players may need to be sacrificed to pay some.
But here is the outlook in 3 years time, again who knows how these prospects will turn out...but that is a Scouting/Drafting issue not a Cap issue
Mitts/Olofsson- Eichel - Nylander/CJ Smith
Okposo - JT - Reinhart
ERod/Pu - Mitts/ERod - Baptiste
Davidson - Asplund - Bailey
Pu, Nylander, CJ Smith(13th F)
Dahlin - ROR acquisition
Guhle - Risto
McCabe - Pilut
Borge, Bryson, Stephenson (7th D)
Ullmark / Luukkonen
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Tavares also likely gets stuck in more defensive situations than he was in NyI
As much as u refose to admit it,
it would likely have an effect on his 5v5 production
I’d still sign him in a heartbeat though
Is there any kind of rumor to this,
or u guys just spitballing? - jdfitz77
Just Thinking about the possibilities
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seedy
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Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA Joined: 02.22.2007
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I can help.
She’ll be at my house - IonSabres
It puts on the lotion or it gets the hose?
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cabin
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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This place is like watching a soap opera once after missing it for a year. . Read one page and your'e all caught up.
Note: I do not watch soap operas. |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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It puts on the lotion or it gets the hose? - seedy
Whatever she wants |
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cabin
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Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY Joined: 09.07.2006
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You missed quite a bit of back an forth...I added in a 3.25% salary increase annually to account for Salary growth in line with the anticipated Cap increase.
I mean, the Cap is a hard stop, so it can’t be exceeded obviously.
Given that, certain players may need to be sacrificed to pay some.
But here is the outlook in 3 years time, again who knows how these prospects will turn out...but that is a Scouting/Drafting issue not a Cap issue
Mitts/Olofsson- Eichel - Nylander/CJ Smith
Okposo - JT - Reinhart
ERod/Pu - Mitts/ERod - Baptiste
Davidson - Asplund - Bailey
Pu, Nylander, CJ Smith(13th F)
Dahlin - ROR acquisition
Guhle - Risto
McCabe - Pilut
Borge, Bryson, Stephenson (7th D)
Ullmark / Luukkonen - IonSabres
Need the bolded to have a great turn around summer and come to camp playing like NHL players. No more hoping and waiting .
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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This place is like watching a soap opera once after missing it for a year. . Read one page and your'e all caught up.
Note: I do not watch soap operas. - cabin
noted
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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LandlordTom
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Location: Ice girls, please, NY Joined: 07.16.2011
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Recently a dwarf fortune-teller went missing. The next day the headline read,
"Small Medium at-Large"
Also, I'm very glad it's the GM's job to plan rosters and figure salaries. I enjoy watching hockey. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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The flash is absolutely terrible now wtf happen to my favorite show |
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Flynox
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Location: McEichel Joined: 06.16.2011
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I miss watching the Sabres in the playoffs😭 Hopefully with Dahlin & some good prospects coming up & A healthy Eichel we could get there again, but it’ll probably tale a few years. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I miss watching the Sabres in the playoffs😭 Hopefully with Dahlin & some good prospects coming up & A healthy Eichel we could get there again, but it’ll probably tale a few years. - Flynox
Who knows if we do some trading with the core it could possibly mean playoffs next year but it definitely depends on the players coming back |
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IonSabres
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Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL Joined: 03.10.2013
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Need the bolded to have a great turn around summer and come to camp playing like NHL players. No more hoping and waiting . - cabin
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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what time is the leafs game?
I can't find it |
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