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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:37 PM ET
Key part (not saying he's not elite ))
- gerbe75pts

You said Eichel is way better. He might end up way better but right now he certainly isn’t
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 11:38 PM ET
for the record

I believe getting Dahlin speeds up our rebuild at least 18 months


if I was GM the 3 contracts I would try to move this offseason is
scandella, okposo, and bogo

- homiedclown


Hmmmm...

You’d be “selling low” on Okposo, at best
Might even have to retain salary as well to move him
Probably makes more sense to play him with Jack, let him rebound this season
Then he’d be much more movable

And with Bogo, idk what we could do?
If the Caps lose Carlson, keep half his salary & ship him there...
or another team desperate for a RH defenseman

Scandella is easily movable imo
Just don’t know what the return would be
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 11:38 PM ET
Seems they need a captain that can control the WHOLE team.
- cabin



That's why I'm wondering if there is someone out there that could be acquired and named our captain.

Eichel seams like the obvious choice, but maybe a Jamie Benn? Max patreitty? Pat kane?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:39 PM ET
You said Eichel is way better. He might end up way better but right now he certainly isn’t
- sbroads24


I'm pretty sure if Mark scheifele was on our team he would not be where he is right now

Basically their top two 4 wingers beat anybody on this roster in 10 years correct?

If Jack had those Wingers what kind of stats would he put up?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 11:39 PM ET
mccabe and nylander?

who knows on ror

- homiedclown


Besides age,
that’s the big question though

I’m assuming we’d give up more for Kessel than we’d get for ROR

Interesting thought though
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:41 PM ET
tough day at the office?
- homiedclown


Better good day played with the stapler and managed to staple my finger
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 11:41 PM ET


If Jack had those Wingers what kind of stats would he put up?

- gerbe75pts

215 points
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:41 PM ET
I'm pretty sure if Mark scheifele was on our team he would not be where he is right now

Basically their top two 4 wingers beat anybody on this roster in 10 years correct?

If Jack had those Wingers what kind of stats would he put up?

- gerbe75pts

Again, I’d take Eichel. You said “way better” he’s way better than most guys, not Scheifele

MS was a PPG player this year.

Eichel isn’t way better.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
Again, I’d take Eichel. You said “way better” he’s way better than most guys, not Scheifele

MS was a PPG player this year.

Eichel isn’t way better.

- sbroads24


Schieffle had much better wingers though
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
That's why I'm wondering if there is someone out there that could be acquired and named our captain.

Eichel seams like the obvious choice, but maybe a Jamie Benn? Max patreitty? Pat kane?

- Boss34


Max p is old and up for a big contract pass
Pat Kane old but elite should be interested but the price better not be that high

Jamie benn yes please
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 11:43 PM ET
Besides age,
that’s the big question though

I’m assuming we’d give up more for Kessel than we’d get for ROR

Interesting thought though

- jdfitz77

kessel, eichel, reinhart
casey, ror, baptste/bailey


top 6 is much faster with dahlin and risto firing break out passes
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 11:44 PM ET
Connor Hellebuyck was picked 130th overall.

Tim Murray gave up 21 for Lehner.

- sbroads24


Same year?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:45 PM ET
Same year?
- Boss34

Nope. Hellebuyck was ‘12
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 11:46 PM ET
We don’t even know for sure about Casey yet...
we sure as hell won’t know about Davidsson for a while

Drafting Davidsson just means he values the position
Doesn’t mean he’s necessarily RORs replacement

Also,
there’s a lot of guys drafted at center who end up as wingers

Not saying ROR won’t get traded,
but i think it’s premature to just ASSUME so at this point too

- jdfitz77



Doubting Casey again.
Casey65
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:46 PM ET
Schieffle had much better wingers though
- jdfitz77

But did he have better wingers?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 10 @ 11:47 PM ET
Nope. Hellebuyck was ‘12
- sbroads24

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:47 PM ET
Again, I’d take Eichel. You said “way better” he’s way better than most guys, not Scheifele

MS was a PPG player this year.

Eichel isn’t way better.

- sbroads24


How can you say he's not way better ? Remember Jack was on a PPG and would have hit 90 if he didn't get injured

I like Mark scheifele a lot (Elite)

If Jack eichel is putting up a point-per-game with scrubs what do you think he could do with top NHL Wingers ?


Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 11:48 PM ET
Max p is old and up for a big contract pass
Pat Kane old but elite should be interested but the price better not be that high

Jamie benn yes please

- gerbe75pts



You slap the "c" on right away. Does jack get upset?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:49 PM ET
Nope. Hellebuyck was ‘12
- sbroads24


You think we take a run at Hutchinson hell maybe Steve Mason gets released
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 10 @ 11:50 PM ET
How can you say he's not way better ? Remember Jack was on a PPG and would have hit 90 if he didn't get injured

I like Mark scheifele a lot (Elite)

If Jack eichel is putting up a point-per-game with scrubs what do you think he could do with top NHL Wingers ?

- gerbe75pts

I’m sorry, I love Eichel, but MS is a top 10 Center right now.

Eichel isn’t way better than a guy who’s top 10.

Including playoffs Scheifele has 30 goals and 74 points in 71 games
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:50 PM ET
You slap the "c" on right away. Does jack get upset?
- Boss34


I'm kind of confused why don't you want Jack having the C ?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 10 @ 11:50 PM ET
kessel, eichel, reinhart
casey, ror, baptste/bailey


top 6 is much faster with dahlin and risto firing break out passes

- homiedclown


Idk if Kessel has ever played the left side though?

But yeah, looks good on paper at least

I’d even consider spreading that out over 3 lines

_____-Eichel-Kessel
_____-O’Reilly-Reinhart
_____-Mittelstadt-_____

Is Okposo still in the mix?
Other contenders to fill in the blanks:
E Rod, Baptiste, Bailey, Pommer (RW3 only), Nylander, Olofsson, O’Regan, Cj Smith

Idk how/if Kessel helps/hurts “the room” though
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 10 @ 11:51 PM ET
Nope. Hellebuyck was ‘12
- sbroads24


Seams Ryan Millerish

Mid round pick
Developed late
American
Wins a lot of games
Good offensive team
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:52 PM ET
I’m sorry, I love Eichel, but MS is a top 10 Center right now.

Eichel isn’t way better than a guy who’s top 10.

Including playoffs Scheifele has 30 goals and 74 points in 71 games

- sbroads24


I guess right now you win the argument.. but when Jack gets better Wingers and a better team around him you might change your mind someday it's not going to happen right away obviously
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:53 PM ET
Seams Ryan Millerish

Mid round pick
Developed late
American
Wins a lot of games
Good offensive team

- Boss34


Shhhhhhbhhhh you're not allowed to say good things about Miller
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