Mark Paul: Florida Panthers Trading Partners (Montreal Canadiens)

Flyers offer a 5th for bjugstad

Leafs offer a 6th

I guess I misread, thought Pacioretty was included in there.

Leafs offer a 6th
- Tumbleweed

What a nightmare that contract is. They thought Reilly Smith’s was bad...take either of these offers and run imo

Imo, this trade offer is a bit unreasonable.
Bjugstad is an excellent 3rd line C. Trading 2 2nd (and two high 2nds), a 3rd and a prospect (albeit not a very good one) for Bjugstad is a massive overpayment from Montreal’s part, especially since he’s had 1 good year (this year), has a big cap hit (for a bottom-6 C), and he’s injury prone (he’s missed 53 games since the start of 2014/15). Your pieces on the trade scenarios with other teams were fairer imo

Imo, this trade offer is a bit unreasonable.
Bjugstad is an excellent 3rd line C. Trading 2 2nd (and two high 2nds), a 3rd and a prospect (albeit not a very good one) for Bjugstad is a massive overpayment from Montreal’s part, especially since he’s had 1 good year (this year), has a big cap hit (for a bottom-6 C), and he’s injury prone (he’s missed 53 games since the start of 2014/15). Your pieces on the trade scenarios with other teams were fairer imo
- Gray75

The price is not unreasonable at all.

Wait.

Habs would need to ADD to Pacioretty for Bjugstad?


- Scabeh

Uh, I didn't get that message from what he said?

What a nightmare that contract is. They thought Reilly Smith’s was bad...take either of these offers and run imo
- Just5

i was just joking.

i don't think the contract is terrible. more meh.

I think two 2nd round picks would be sufficient to land Bjugstad.
Same price as what they got for Eller.

Uh, I didn't get that message from what he said?
- Aetherial

He removed Pacioretty afterwards or I completely misread then. Most likely the latter.

Still wouldn't give all those picks for a third line centre, we have enough of those.

The price is not unreasonable at all.
- Aetherial

For Borgstrom it's not, for Bjugstad? Not a chance

For Borgstrom it's not, for Bjugstad? Not a chance
- obie

compared to the return for lars eller, it's not bad value.

the 3rd and mccaron are bascially throw-ins imo.

Leafs offer a 6th
- Tumbleweed

Islanders offer a conditional 3rd round pick in 2022 and Cal Clutterbuck

compared to the return for lars eller, it's not bad value.

the 3rd and mccaron are bascially throw-ins imo.
- Tumbleweed

It depends on where the team is headed I suppose but for the Habs, those picks are far more valuable than Martin Hanz... Sorry, Nick Bjugstad!

"The Montreal Canadiens have been adept at center for quite some time."

I believe you meant to say inept, not adept . . . otherwise trading for a center would be inept . . .

I think two 2nd round picks would be sufficient to land Bjugstad.
Same price as what they got for Eller.
- zazzle

Eller was traded coming off a 26 point season at age 27.

Bjugstad is coming off a 49 point season at age 26. (July birthday so counting age he would be at start of next season)

Great work again Mark. Looking forward to seeing your first DET blog

Honestly if I was fan of the Panthers I would not want any major changes to my team. The last month and a half of season they were one of the best and hardest team to beat. Maybe a little tweak but no changes to core.

He removed Pacioretty afterwards or I completely misread then. Most likely the latter.

Still wouldn't give all those picks for a third line centre, we have enough of those.
- Scabeh

"The obvious candidate for trade would be Montreal's captain Max Pacioretty, however, I recently did a full piece on this which you can find here. Instead, the focus is going to be what the Habs can acquire from the Panthers. "

I wasn't saying Pacioretty for Bjugstad, simply saying that I wrote a previous article about a Pacioretty trade and that instead I'd focus on Bjugstad to the Panthers.

No edits here

Imo, this trade offer is a bit unreasonable.
Bjugstad is an excellent 3rd line C. Trading 2 2nd (and two high 2nds), a 3rd and a prospect (albeit not a very good one) for Bjugstad is a massive overpayment from Montreal’s part, especially since he’s had 1 good year (this year), has a big cap hit (for a bottom-6 C), and he’s injury prone (he’s missed 53 games since the start of 2014/15). Your pieces on the trade scenarios with other teams were fairer imo
- Gray75

Tatar has a bigger cap hit, is 2 years older, is a defensive liability, and is a pure winger (as opposed to Bjugstad who can play center). Bjugstad also played all 82 games this year so any idea that he's injury prone isn't totally factual. Also, the best teams in the league have three good centers and you have to pay for said centers.

That being said, if someone was willing to trade a first, second and third for Tatar, two seconds and a third is even more reasonable.

compared to the return for lars eller, it's not bad value.

the 3rd and mccaron are bascially throw-ins imo.
- Tumbleweed

You're correct about the throw-ins. Obviously those last couple side pieces can be adjusted. Two second round picks seemed much more in line with Bjugstad's contribution level than a first and a second (which is what Tatar got but was an overpayment IMO).

"The Montreal Canadiens have been adept at center for quite some time."

I believe you meant to say inept, not adept . . . otherwise trading for a center would be inept . . .
- leeroggy

Auto correct doesn't catch when you completely mix up definitions

You're correct about the throw-ins. Obviously those last couple side pieces can be adjusted. Two second round picks seemed much more in line with Bjugstad's contribution level than a first and a second (which is what Tatar got but was an overpayment IMO).
- Mark Paul

That's fine but a trade also depends on team needs and in the position the Habs find themselves in, those picks are worth more to them than a 3rd line C... The Habs will agree to that package of picks and the so called prospect in Mccarron if Borgstrom is the player coming back the other way

For Borgstrom it's not, for Bjugstad? Not a chance
- obie

Well that is likely going to be the market you are in if you are trying to trade for a center.

You can sign Bozak as a free agent, or overpay for a center.