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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: A look back at Jason Botterill's first year as GM on his 1-yr. anniversary
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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
"When you finish where we were, you have to look at everything," he said. "That means looking at even changing up some of our core players. From a free agent standpoint, we'll be involved in free agency. But I'm a believer that you just can't build a team just through free agency. It has to come from within our organization."
- sbroads24


Didn't he say something to the tune of "we'll be active in free agency something something owner deep pockets/resources?" after they won the lottery?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:11 PM ET
I'm left wondering where the "big changes" are coming from.
- TheSabresTaco



A lot of us will feel that way. He'll sell Okposo, Lehner as the core moves.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
Sidenote : I think the bills found their franchise quarterback
- gerbe75pts


Are you done pouting on the beach
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
I don't think there's a fan in Sabreland who wouldn't want to see that happen
- Michael Pachla



There may be a chance Reinhart is moved if his contract demands are outlandish. Like if he's unwilling to take a bridge deal and wants a long term deal at like 6 million.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:12 PM ET
A lot of us will feel that way. He'll sell Okposo, Lehner as the core moves.
- Sabresfan-365


Salary wise, they are core players. I'll refrain from judgement until after July 1. But we need to see movement.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 11 @ 3:13 PM ET
Lehner too I guess. I think the lottery win changes things, it gave him a core player for free.

I think it would be a mistake not moving ROR this summer, but I wouldn't go that far

- Sabresfan-365

They were getting one regardless of picking 4th or 1st.

We just have more options now.

You weren't getting a #1 D man any other way, so it should have 0 bearing on their offseason plans.

They show up with the same slow forwards in the top 6, and Ristolainen playing 25 min a night, I'm out. The improvment will be marginal at best
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:14 PM ET
There may be a chance Reinhart is moved if his contract demands ore outlandish. Like if he's unwilling to take a bridge deal and wants a long term deal at like 6 million.
- Sabresfan-365


The guy doesn't have the leverage. Galchenyuk is a pretty good comparable here. I'm betting on 4.5M.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 11 @ 3:14 PM ET
Lehner too I guess. I think the lottery win changes things, it gave him a core player for free.

I think it would be a mistake not moving ROR this summer, but I wouldn't go that far

- Sabresfan-365


If not qualifying Lehner is his big move for the summer, I give him an F. I have a hard time imagining that.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 11 @ 3:14 PM ET
Didn't he say something to the tune of "we'll be active in free agency something something owner deep pockets/resources?" after they won the lottery?
- Sabresfan-365


He said that,and then said something like :

but the league isn't like it was 10-15 years ago. You can't build a team through free agency
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 04.04.2016

May 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
The guy doesn't have the leverage. Galchenyuk is a pretty good comparable here. I'm betting on 4.5M.
- TheSabresTaco



Druin got a million more than that. Some people's heads might explode if that happened
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:15 PM ET
He said that,and then said something like :

but the league isn't like it was 10-15 years ago. You can't build a team through free agency

- jcragcrumple


"When you finish where we were, you have to look at everything," he said. "That means looking at even changing up some of our core players. From a free agent standpoint, we'll be involved in free agency. But I'm a believer that you just can't build a team just through free agency. It has to come from within our organization."
- sbroads24
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:16 PM ET
Druin got a million more than that. Some people's heads might explode if that happened
- jcragcrumple


Bergevin is a dip poop. No more insight needed.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:17 PM ET
Salary wise, they are core players. I'll refrain from judgement until after July 1. But we need to see movement.
- TheSabresTaco



He's got the golden ticket imo. At some point all three of Dahlin, mittelstadt, Guhle will be with the team, he didn't have that kind of internal help last year. combined with minimal expectations, the fan base will love it.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 04.04.2016

May 11 @ 3:19 PM ET
[quote=TheSabresTaco]


My bad
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:19 PM ET
If not qualifying Lehner is his big move for the summer, I give him an F. I have a hard time imagining that.
- Lunaion



and okposo** and trading nylander++. with expectations so low, his off season moves won't matter. As long as the team doesn't suck next year he'll be the best GM since 2011 darcy
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:20 PM ET
He's got the golden ticket imo. At some point all three of Dahlin, mittelstadt, Guhle will be with the team, he didn't have that kind of internal help last year. combined with minimal expectations, the fan base will love it.
- Sabresfan-365


I'll be waiting for Gerbe to tell us how disappointed he is with Dahlin by week 3.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
and okposo** and trading nylander++. with expectations so low, his off season moves won't matter. As long as the team doesn't suck next year he'll be the best GM since 2011 darcy
- Sabresfan-365


I don't know why everyone wants to trade Nylander, and then expect some great return. The guy has a poop load of talent that he hasn't utilized yet. And he probably doesn't have much value until he does. If he magically gets us a top 6 winger, then neato. But I doubt it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 11 @ 3:22 PM ET
Nice work as always

Mittelstadt at 8 was good for his career, and Dahlin is even better. If he can move Bogo or Okposo, that would be a successful summer. 1 or 2 smart vet depth signings, and let the kids play. He understands we need to get faster on the wings.

I would love a trade for a scoring winger.

- jcragcrumple


Bogosian to the Caps for Grubauer
They’re gonna need a RH defenseman when Carlson walks
Maybe add a pick or Fasching-like prospect

Keep half Bogo’s salary
So we will get a pretty good young goalie to pair with Ullmark
And have to pay roughly a 2.5mil Cap hit from him for 2yrs, but that’s better than if we bought him out

Gets us a price reduction on Grubauer
If not the Caps,
teams are always desperate for defenseman help
Someone will take a chance on him for half salary
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:23 PM ET
They were getting one regardless of picking 4th or 1st.

We just have more options now.

You weren't getting a #1 D man any other way, so it should have 0 bearing on their offseason plans.

They show up with the same slow forwards in the top 6, and Ristolainen playing 25 min a night, I'm out. The improvment will be marginal at best

- sbroads24



Not right away though, I think that's what changes. It speeds up your timeline. If your best add was Tkachuk who is going back to college, you'd have to make some moves. Because he's further away and less likely to hit core status than Dahlin.

The fact that they weren't going to get one and then managed to luck into one is why it changes things. There's less pressure to make moves right now to make up for that deficiency.

I think they'll add a scoring/speedy winger for eichel and try and move okposo. That's two guys right there.

And with something almost resembling nhl depth on defense, it's unlikely Ristolainen plays that much unless the year is about sheltering Dahlin (maybe early on)
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:25 PM ET
I don't know why everyone wants to trade Nylander, and then expect some great return. The guy has a poop load of talent that he hasn't utilized yet. And he probably doesn't have much value until he does. If he magically gets us a top 6 winger, then neato. But I doubt it.
- TheSabresTaco



I think the fact that he has a poop load of talent and is only 20 will carry value. That plus say 32 and next years 2nd may get you a guy capable of keeping up with Eichel
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:26 PM ET
Bogosian to the Caps for Grubauer
They’re gonna need a RH defenseman when Carlson walks
Maybe add a pick or Fasching-like prospect

Keep half Bogo’s salary
So we will get a pretty good young goalie to pair with Ullmark
And have to pay roughly a 2.5mil Cap hit from him for 2yrs, but that’s better than if we bought him out

Gets us a price reduction on Grubauer
If not the Caps,
teams are always desperate for defenseman help
Someone will take a chance on him for half salary

- jdfitz77



Im going to go out on a limb and say that Bogosian retained plus Fasching will not be the best offer the caps receive for Grubauer
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 11 @ 3:28 PM ET
Im going to go out on a limb and say that Bogosian retained plus Fasching will not be the best offer the caps receive for Grubauer
- Sabresfan-365


Girgensons and Larsson and Tennyson and Fedun for Wild Bill Karlsson. Book it.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 11 @ 3:28 PM ET
He's got the golden ticket imo. At some point all three of Dahlin, mittelstadt, Guhle will be with the team, he didn't have that kind of internal help last year. combined with minimal expectations, the fan base will love it.
- Sabresfan-365

Love all of them, but all 3 would be rookies.

Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 12.09.2012

May 11 @ 3:32 PM ET
Love all of them, but all 3 would be rookies.
- sbroads24


They would be, but keeping those other guys around would insulate them. I think in the short term thats the idea.

I don't agree with it at all, but other than a Friedman interview and Harrington's gut, there hasn't been much to suggest any of Risto, Reinhart or ROR will be gone.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 11 @ 3:33 PM ET
Not right away though, I think that's what changes. It speeds up your timeline. If your best add was Tkachuk who is going back to college, you'd have to make some moves. Because he's further away and less likely to hit core status than Dahlin.

The fact that they weren't going to get one and then managed to luck into one is why it changes things. There's less pressure to make moves right now to make up for that deficiency.

I think they'll add a scoring/speedy winger for eichel and try and move okposo. That's two guys right there.

And with something almost resembling nhl depth on defense, it's unlikely Ristolainen plays that much unless the year is about sheltering Dahlin (maybe early on)

- Sabresfan-365

100% disagree. It puts more pressure.

They come out and suck with Eichel and Dahlin, with the current high paid players..... he ain't keeping his job
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