Im going to go out on a limb and say that Bogosian retained plus Fasching will not be the best offer the caps receive for Grubauer
- Sabresfan-365

lol, think you're very safe on that one! A 2nd rounder is worth more than that package.

"When you finish where we were, you have to look at everything," he said. "That means looking at even changing up some of our core players. From a free agent standpoint, we'll be involved in free agency. But I'm a believer that you just can't build a team just through free agency. It has to come from within our organization."
- sbroads24

Over half of Pittsburgh’s Cup winning teams were from free agency or trade

How bout that alex nylander kid, he looks pretty good.

lol, think you're very safe on that one! A 2nd rounder is worth more than that package.
- Lunaion

Who says the pick can’t be a 2nd?

Im going to go out on a limb and say that Bogosian retained plus Fasching will not be the best offer the caps receive for Grubauer
- Sabresfan-365

A potential top4 defenseman for 2.5mil...
and no one is giving up a 1st for him
(I don’t think anyways)
So if we have to make it pick 32 to make it happen, we’ll there ya go
I really don’t see anyone beating that offer

Over half of Pittsburgh’s Cup winning teams were from free agency or trade
- jdfitz77

Malkin, Crosby and Letang were all picks.

That’s the building blocks of those teams

Over half of Pittsburgh’s Cup winning teams were from free agency or trade
- jdfitz77

lol what?

Their three best players and backbone of their team were all high draft picks

Malkin, Crosby and Letang were all picks.

That’s the building blocks of those teams
- sbroads24

Fleury/Murray too

A potential top4 defenseman for 2.5mil...
and no one is giving up a 1st for him
(I don’t think anyways)
So if we have to make it pick 32 to make it happen, we’ll there ya go
I really don’t see anyone beating that offer
- jdfitz77

do you actually believe that?

Who says the pick can’t be a 2nd?
- jdfitz77

I don't get it....Bogosian retained + Fasching has no pick involved.

I like Grubauer, but he's going to cost more, then you have to pay him and he's your #1. All fine by me, just not sure I see them going that route.

I don't get it....Bogosian retained + Fasching has no pick involved.

I like Grubauer, but he's going to cost more, then you have to pay him and he's your #1. All fine by me, just not sure I see them going that route.
- Lunaion

Well he did say fasching like prospect or pick....but he also called Bogo a top four d-man so

Malkin, Crosby and Letang were all picks.

That’s the building blocks of those teams
- sbroads24

Fleury & Murray too
And Guentzel & Dumoulin

But also MANY contributors who weren’t home grown
Like i said, over half the team came from elsewhere

We also have building blocks that we drafted
EVERYONE needs to add to their drafted talent though

Pitt doesn’t win those Cups without Kessel, Bonino, Hagelin & Hornqvist (plus others)

do you actually believe that?
- Sabresfan-365

If Healthy (big if)
But yeah...
any team that would trade for him will view him like that

Sidenote : I think the bills found their franchise quarterback
- gerbe75pts

Quite a change from the last few months saying he was the 5th best QB in this class. I respect your opinion on matters but stuff like this brings down your credibility.

Well he did say fasching like prospect or pick....but he also called Bogo a top four d-man so
- Sabresfan-365

Common tactic, take the players you want to get off the roster and take a one-sided optimistic look at them. It's like a used car salesman.

Any suggestion that Fasching and a 2nd rounder are close in value is absurd.

I don't get it....Bogosian retained + Fasching has no pick involved.

I like Grubauer, but he's going to cost more, then you have to pay him and he's your #1. All fine by me, just not sure I see them going that route.
- Lunaion

I said Fasching-like prospect
OR a pick

And I’m guessing he’d cost similar to Darling, which was i think 4 years & just over 4mil

Quite a change from the last few months saying he was the 5th best QB in this class. I respect your opinion on matters but stuff like this brings down your credibility.
- Pegullaville

Dangs Gerbe you had credibility? Here I thought you couldn't afford a car.

I think this is our lineup next year. Obviously the spots are interchangeable and the log jam at LHD will eventually force Botts to move someone but:

New guy-Eichel-Okposo

Wilson-ROR-Reinhart

Low risk guy-Mittelstadt-EROD

FA signing-Larsson-Pominville


Scandella-Ristolainen

McCabe-Bogosian

Dahlin-Nelson

Depth guy

Guhle-Pilut on stand by when a lefty is moved


New Guy
Ullmark
- Sabresfan-365

I can't watch Larsson anymore just can't do it

As we sit today
?-Eichel-?
?-ROR-Reinhart
Smith-Mittelstadt-Pominville
Wilson-?-Baptiste

Maybes?
Bailey, Nylander, Malone, Okposo, Girgensons, Larsson, O'Regan
Olofsson/ Asplund start in Rochester

Dahlin-Risto
Scandella-Nelson
Guhle- Bogosian

McCabe/ Beaulieu/ Pilut

Ullmark
?

I said Fasching-like prospect
OR a pick

And I’m guessing he’d cost similar to Darling, which was i think 4 years & just over 4mil
- jdfitz77

I would just try to sign Hutton for free

Well he did say fasching like prospect or pick....but he also called Bogo a top four d-man so
- Sabresfan-365

POTENTIAL top4 defenseman

Not sure why keeping RoR is defended so much here. We need to move him now to get younger and faster. RoR still have plenty of value and we need to capitalize on that.

We have Eichel just starting his first post-ELC contract and our new core is young.

We should be moving RoR now and let someone else pay him 7.5 mil when hes a middling 3rd line center in 2 years.

If Healthy (big if)
But yeah...
any team that would trade for him will view him like that
- jdfitz77

Yeah no, they won't. He sucks dude. You can die on that hill for ROR but there's literally no statistic, basic or advanced and no kind of eye test that would suggest he's anything more than a 3rd pair guy

Common tactic, take the players you want to get off the roster and take a one-sided optimistic look at them. It's like a used car salesman.

Any suggestion that Fasching and a 2nd rounder are close in value is absurd.
- Lunaion

Never said they were
U gotta read sir
I said we could go up to a 2nd if we had to

Great write up:

Gerbe - how come no grade for finishing 5 points out of 30th? 1st team to come in 31st in nhl history.

If you believe jbotts was trying to assemble a winning team- he should get an "F"

I give jbotts an "A+" for a great tank successful season

Well played Jbotts

Who says the pick can’t be a 2nd?
- jdfitz77

Guess you didn't say that. I'll read more carefully.