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CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Signing Bozak to a 3 year deal would be a poor move unless you're planning on trading Sutter in the next year or two imo.

If Gaudette establishes himself this year and Pettersson proves capable of playing C then all of a sudden you have a logjam with Sutter and Bozak taking up too much space down the middle.

I'd only want to sign Bozak for 1 or 2 years but I doubt he'd want a deal that short.

I agree that new blood is needed for sure rather than the same crappy lineup. That's why I hope our prospects push for jobs this year and make some of those guys redundant rather than us signing old FAs that will be taking up too much space 2 years from now

- NorthNuck

Lets just suck next season. Next years draft is way more exciting
it's in Van and loaded with talent
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 15 @ 1:03 PM ET

Just keep on healing, and if you ever wantto stop being a grouchy old timer just let us know

- Pres.cup

(frank) no
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 15 @ 1:03 PM ET
Pitts looking to dump Matt Hunwick . His salary is 2.25 @2 yrs . Here is a case where you take their second round pick and bury Hunwick on the Comets making it a 1.25 hit fro two years
- VANTEL

If Im JB im looking to add 3 or 4 players like this for picks this year and then stuff them in utica or eat 50% salary and move them again at TDL if possible.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 1:05 PM ET
Edibles.
- Marwood

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 1:08 PM ET
Jesperi Kotkaniemi
- VANTEL

I like him as well.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 1:09 PM ET
I like him as well.
- A_SteamingLombardi

he is a safe pick but his skating needs a lot of work.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 15 @ 1:10 PM ET
Spezza please
- mauryballstein


B1tch Splezz....

Tavarez 2x14m
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 15 @ 1:11 PM ET
(frank) no
- VANTEL


mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
B1tch Splezz....

Tavarez 2x14m

- Pres.cup

why 2? 1 year at 14.. eat half then flip at deadline.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 1:26 PM ET



YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 15 @ 1:37 PM ET
why 2? 1 year at 14.. eat half then flip at deadline.
- mauryballstein


The second year is what makes a deal like this attractive enough to all parties to be viable.

Player gets some security with 2 years at $14MM per guaranteed. If he gets seriously injured on a one year deal, then he loses too much off of what he could have signed on a longer term contract to make the risk worthwhile. Not difficult to imagine that a guy might get injured playing for the Canucks.

Team trading for him at the deadline gets two shots at a cup run with him signed for the extra year and basically cap circumvention with the Canucks retaining salary. They can start negotiating an extension a few months after they trade for him but would have his rights for another year. That's worth way more than just a regular rental.

Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 15 @ 1:54 PM ET
The second year is what makes a deal like this attractive enough to all parties to be viable.

Player gets some security with 2 years at $14MM per guaranteed. If he gets seriously injured on a one year deal, then he loses too much off of what he could have signed on a longer term contract to make the risk worthwhile. Not difficult to imagine that a guy might get injured playing for the Canucks.

Team trading for him at the deadline gets two shots at a cup run with him signed for the extra year and basically cap circumvention with the Canucks retaining salary. They can start negotiating an extension a few months after they trade for him but would have his rights for another year. That's worth way more than just a regular rental.

- YeOldTimer


Exactly, plus we shouldn't need the cap for two years and it should allow us to garner extra picks for the extra year. Who wouldn't want teachers for 2years at 7million?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 15 @ 2:05 PM ET
why 2? 1 year at 14.. eat half then flip at deadline.
- mauryballstein

I wonder what level of interest a guy like Tavares would have in that. If he's not recommitted to going back to the Isles you could just say hey we'll pay you a ton of cash and we can guarantee that at the TDL you'll be traded to a team that has a chance at the cup.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 15 @ 2:06 PM ET
Lets just suck next season. Next years draft is way more exciting
it's in Van and loaded with talent

- CanuckDon

I don't think we need to try to suck. This year hopefully is a growing pains year and next years draft will be fun
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 2:11 PM ET
he is a safe pick but his skating needs a lot of work.
- CanuckDon


Speaking of poor skaters, How do you feel about Tryamkin walking away from Canucks bloggers, at WHC?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 2:28 PM ET
Speaking of poor skaters, How do you feel about Tryamkin walking away from Canucks bloggers, at WHC?
- Reubenkincade

YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 15 @ 2:33 PM ET
Exactly, plus we shouldn't need the cap for two years and it should allow us to garner extra picks for the extra year. Who wouldn't want teachers for 2years at 7million?
- Pres.cup


You can talk about trying to trade a guy like Tanev for a low first round or high second round pick that may or may not turn into a decent player for you in a few years.

Or you could pursue this bolder path and try to get a huge haul that sets your franchise up for a decade. Might be a situation somewhat similar to the Nordiques trading Lindros.

What would a team like Nashville, Tampa, Washington or San Jose give up in order to add a guy like Tavares for two years at a cap hit of only $7MM per? Probably a couple of very good roster players, a blue chip prospect or two, plus a first rounder and maybe a few other picks.

Nashville could upgrade Turris for only $1MM per year, or keep him and replace Bonino for $3.1MM. If they send the Canucks one of those guys, you could retain salary again and then flip that player as well to collect get even more prospects and picks.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 2:36 PM ET
You can talk about trying to trade a guy like Tanev for a low first round or high second round pick that may or may not turn into a decent player for you in a few years.

Or you could pursue this bolder path and try to get a huge haul that sets your franchise up for a decade. Might be a situation somewhat similar to the Nordiques trading Lindros.

What would a team like Nashville, Tampa, Washington or San Jose give up in order to add a guy like Tavares for two years at a cap hit of only $7MM per? Probably a couple of very good roster players, a blue chip prospect or two, plus a first rounder and maybe a few other picks.

Nashville could upgrade Turris for only $1MM per year, or keep him and replace Bonino for $3.1MM. If they send the Canucks one of those guys, you could retain salary again and then flip that player as well to collect get even more prospects and picks.

- YeOldTimer

What? do you actually think there is a chance tavares signs here?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
What? do you actually think there is a chance tavares signs here?
- CanuckDon

YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 15 @ 2:42 PM ET
Speaking of poor skaters, How do you feel about Tryamkin walking away from Canucks bloggers, at WHC?
- Reubenkincade


As badly as the Canucks need someone like him, they could perhaps best express their appreciation for his commitment to the organization by trading his rights to Buffalo.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 15 @ 2:44 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi

Tavares's boyhood dream was to play with Granlund and Guance
YeOldTimer
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 15 @ 2:52 PM ET
What? do you actually think there is a chance tavares signs here?
- CanuckDon


Not really, no. But I find the concept more interesting than Bodqvist vs. Dobson again.


Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 2:56 PM ET

- CanuckDon


Can you explain that a bit better?😀

I was actually just fishin for a written response, as you have the same writing style as someone on another site, was checking too see if it was you.😁
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 2:57 PM ET
Oliver Wahlstrom was committed to Harvard. Has now changed and has not committed to another school yet. BC or Michigan are the rumoured schools he is interested in.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 15 @ 2:58 PM ET
As badly as the Canucks need someone like him, they could perhaps best express their appreciation for his commitment to the organization by trading his rights to Buffalo.
- YeOldTimer


Ya not sure if i would prefer too see him rot in khl or get something in return!
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