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mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:48 PM ET
I really want to deal sven for a late round pick.

Would be nice to add a guy like Kandre Miller around 25th or so.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
I think what he said was that he was on the highest scoring D in the league... not was the highest scoring D....
- Pres.cup

When Bouchard shared the ice with OJ and Mete, he had half the points. Dobson was on top pairing but still sharing more ice time then Bouchard and was a PPG. If Bouchard had someone else to play with I'd say he would have been closer to a PPG then what he was. They are both very close and will probably both be very good D in the league.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:49 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think the talk around EDM was taking a defender, namely Juolevi or Sergachev but couldn't pass on poolparty and the Canucks were looking at a Dubois.

I think there was a interview where Benning referenced CLB going against the grain and it changed their plans.

- belcherbd

They were going to take Sergachev until CBJ took Dubois. JB wanted Dubois, I so wish CBJ didnt blow that for us
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
I really want to deal sven for a late round pick.

Would be nice to add a guy like Kandre Miller around 25th or so.

- mauryballstein


Love this. Don't see it, but if it somehow happened I'd be very stoked.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 14 @ 12:51 PM ET
I'd be shocked if Boquist doesn't go top5. He doesn't get the love cause CHL/NCAA get all the attention, but he is far and away my favorite to watch in terms of tape. good defensively, unreal in the offensive zone in terms of shot/PPQB. I said earlier, I think MTL picks him.
- neem55


I like him too but I've yet to hear anyone call him good in the defensive end. I think most people agree he will need to work on that part of this game to become a difference maker in the NHL.

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 14 @ 12:52 PM ET
I like him too but I've yet to hear anyone call him good in the defensive end. I think most people agree he will need to work on that part of this game to become a difference maker in the NHL.
- belcherbd


Hmm, I guess I just didn't see him playing 30 minutes a night if he wasn't. So very productive offensively but a bit of a defensive liability?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 14 @ 12:53 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think the talk around EDM was taking a defender, namely Juolevi or Sergachev but couldn't pass on poolparty and the Canucks were looking at a Dubois.

I think there was a interview where Benning referenced CLB going against the grain and it changed their plans.

- belcherbd


Did Friedman not say that the Canucks had a deal in place for Subban if Dubois was still on the board?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:56 PM ET
Love this. Don't see it, but if it somehow happened I'd be very stoked.
- neem55

My pipe dream would be dealing:

Tanev to the Oil for 10 and Russel
Sven for Caps 1st

Draft: Bouchard at 7, Dobson at 10, Kandre Miller at 27.

OJ Bouchard
Miller Dobson
Stetcher Tryamkin

Win the lottery next year and get Hughes

EDIT

Gadjovich Hughes petterson
Dahlin Bo Brock
JV Gaudette Lind

johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 14 @ 12:56 PM ET
Since Boqvist will not likely fall to us any one of Dobson, Bouchard or Hughes will be fine. Since we are out of the top 5 again I honestly don't care who we take as long as it's a Dman.
- LordHumungous


i think he might, though it really will hinge on what the senators do. i think between ottawa arizona and detroit hughes bouchard and a forward will go
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 14 @ 12:58 PM ET
Did Friedman not say that the Canucks had a deal in place for Subban if Dubois was still on the board?
- Nucker101

It would have been a miracle if that had worked out. We get Subban, then draft Sergachev. I had him at 5th instead of Juolevi, still a little sour about that but it should pass once OJ makes the NHL
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 14 @ 12:58 PM ET
I'd be shocked if Boquist doesn't go top5. He doesn't get the love cause CHL/NCAA get all the attention, but he is far and away my favorite to watch in terms of tape. good defensively, unreal in the offensive zone in terms of shot/PPQB. I said earlier, I think MTL picks him.
- neem55

Karlsson wasn't good defensively either when he was drafted and it took him a couple years in the NHL to become better defensively.

Drafting for potential, not for NHL ready though.

For SEAL scoring rates. Tkachuk is quite a ways down there. Simply you pair him with someone who is a little bit better then he is and he becomes better. He didn't play with anyone that little bit better on Boston this year.

Wahlstrom with Hughes got better. Tkachuk with Mittelstadt, he gets better. Tkachuk with EP would probably be a very good pairing.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 14 @ 12:58 PM ET
Everything i've read on Bouchard has his skating as above average. Watching his tape, I don't see molasses. You sure you're thinking of the right guy?
- neem55


Compared to the other 4 defensemen he's slow to turn and accelerate.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:58 PM ET
i think he might, though it really will hinge on what the senators do. i think between ottawa arizona and detroit hughes bouchard and a forward will go
- johnnykarate

Agree.

I wonder if Montreal goes Zadina or Wahlstrom
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 14 @ 1:00 PM ET
I like him too but I've yet to hear anyone call him good in the defensive end. I think most people agree he will need to work on that part of this game to become a difference maker in the NHL.
- belcherbd


seen lots that say he isnt good at the defending side of defense but that he can skate/pass out of trouble very well when recovering the puck and transitioning to offense
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 14 @ 1:00 PM ET
i think he might, though it really will hinge on what the senators do. i think between ottawa arizona and detroit hughes bouchard and a forward will go
- johnnykarate

If I'm the senators and I'm not 100% sure we can hang on to Karlsson I'm taking Boqvist
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 14 @ 1:02 PM ET
Did Friedman not say that the Canucks had a deal in place for Subban if Dubois was still on the board?
- Nucker101


I remember something like that but he also referenced Horvat being part of the deal.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
Since Boqvist will not likely fall to us any one of Dobson, Bouchard or Hughes will be fine. Since we are out of the top 5 again I honestly don't care who we take as long as it's a Dman.
- LordHumungous



"There are at least two or three [defensemen] that we really like. We’re going to take the best player available. If there’s another forward at 7 that we feel will turn out to be the best player, we’re going to take the best player available.”


If JB's 2 or 3 D are off the board. Might be getting a forward.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 14 @ 1:03 PM ET
It would have been a miracle if that had worked out. We get Subban, then draft Sergachev. I had him at 5th instead of Juolevi, still a little sour about that but it should pass once OJ makes the NHL
- NorthNuck

There was speculation that it was more than just the 5th involved though. Another significant piece.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
If JB's 2 or 3 D are off the board. Might be getting a forward.
- manvanfan

as long as it isnt tkachuk
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 14 @ 1:05 PM ET
If JB's 2 or 3 D are off the board. Might be getting a forward.
- manvanfan

I’m just relieved to hear that he’s not set on taking a dman no matter what.

The question is, is he bothering to include Dahlin in that group of 2 or 3 or is he saying he likes 2 or 3 out of Hughes/Bouchard/Boqvist/Dobson?
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Agree.

I wonder if Montreal goes Zadina or Wahlstrom

- mauryballstein


in my mind the top 3 dont change, though wahlstrom could cause a dubois/pujujarvi situation.

in either situation i think ottawa still goes forward and hughes and bouchard go to arizona and detroit. if Sens do D to replace karlsson, i think detroit may switch to a foward
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Hmm, I guess I just didn't see him playing 30 minutes a night if he wasn't. So very productive offensively but a bit of a defensive liability?
- neem55


Does the super elit show post icetime? I hadn't heard that Boqvist was being used that heavily.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
If I'm the senators and I'm not 100% sure we can hang on to Karlsson I'm taking Boqvist
- NorthNuck


agreed. i think the coyotes are almost a lock to take a D and detroit needs everything so if ottawa goes the replacement route then detroit takes the next best player
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 14 @ 1:11 PM ET
Agree.

I wonder if Montreal goes Zadina or Wahlstrom

- mauryballstein


I think there is a chance Car passes on Svech. Their new owner is a wildcard, Don Waddell is trash and they might want to take Zadina to play with Necas.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 14 @ 1:12 PM ET
I’m just relieved to hear that he’s not set on taking a dman no matter what.

The question is, is he bothering to include Dahlin in that group of 2 or 3 or is he saying he likes 2 or 3 out of Hughes/Bouchard/Boqvist/Dobson?

- Nucker101

His has been after a RHD for so long now. There's 3 right there.

Add in the 4 top ranked forwards. That's 7 players. If Even the 3 D go to ARI, OTT, DET that leaves Van with 2 forwards to pick from.
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