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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 14 @ 12:10 PM ET
from GIG Yesterday @ 9:42 PM ET

Wow what rage! I hope you don’t own small animals.
- bird_dog_pa

if you're just now realizing my existence is sustained by ephemeral rage then I don't know what to tell you bro

ask Hammar


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i fill in your gaps with my perma rage.

also, not only did you have me at angstrom, you have also used ephemeral. i need to marry you.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 14 @ 12:10 PM ET
sign JVR make up for the schenn trade
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

May 14 @ 12:14 PM ET
Where will Hart play if not the AHL? I thought he was going to age out of the WHL after this season.
- dragonoffrost

ECHL
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:27 PM ET
ECHL
- YuenglingJagr


Imagine the rage if that happens
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 14 @ 12:28 PM ET
ECHL
- YuenglingJagr



I would be monumentally shocked if that became even remotely possible.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:30 PM ET
Would love to see him start rather than back up. Yes, he graduates from juniors this year.
- Giroux_Is_God


Do they even consider a three goalie system in the AHL. Hart as #1. Stolie and Lyon as 2a and 2b. Where they rotate as backup and then when Hart gets his rest day they both dress?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 14 @ 12:31 PM ET
I would be monumentally shocked if that became even remotely possible.
- MBFlyerfan


jonathan quick started in the echl. just saying.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 14 @ 12:32 PM ET
I think Alex Lyon wins an NHL job out of camp. Neuvirth is traded or bought out. Hart Splits time with Tokarski or Stolarz depending on which is resigned.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 14 @ 12:33 PM ET
Do they even consider a three goalie system in the AHL. Hart as #1. Stolie and Lyon as 2a and 2b. Where they rotate as backup and then when Hart gets his rest day they both dress?
- dragonoffrost


i don't see a tandem of elliott/neuvirth holding - perhaps even from before the season begins. i think lyon or stolarz will get the backup role. i really liked what i saw from stolarz in his limited time with the flyers, but obviously lyon accounted himself well in his call up and with his run in the calder cup, and i think he'll get a chance too.

arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

May 14 @ 12:37 PM ET
I think Alex Lyon wins an NHL job out of camp. Neuvirth is traded or bought out. Hart Splits time with Tokarski or Stolarz depending on which is resigned.
- MBFlyerfan


I think I rather try to trade + retain salary for Neuvy compared to just buying out.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 12:40 PM ET
i don't see a tandem of elliott/neuvirth holding - perhaps even from before the season begins. i think lyon or stolarz will get the backup role. i really liked what i saw from stolarz in his limited time with the flyers, but obviously lyon accounted himself well in his call up and with his run in the calder cup, and i think he'll get a chance too.
- hammarby31


I think this will be one of the interesting stories of the Summer and Camp.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think I rather try to trade + retain salary for Neuvy compared to just buying out.
- arichardson22

I agree I think they try a trade, and if that doesn't work then they waive him. If someone picks him up then no super loss to you and you aren't paying for him. and otherwise you let him split time with Hart in the AHL.

The trade is obviously preferable.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 14 @ 12:41 PM ET
I think this will be one of the interesting stories of the Summer and Camp.
- dragonoffrost

What goalie drama in Philly? It's the favorite narrative.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 14 @ 12:50 PM ET
Would love to see him start rather than back up. Yes, he graduates from juniors this year.
- Giroux_Is_God



AHL, they will split games it is a development league.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 14 @ 12:52 PM ET
right now the best chance to win next season is a healthy Nuevy, maybe he will finally have a healthy season.


I prefer Hexy trades for Grubauer, with how the Caps are playing I think it could be very possible.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 14 @ 12:53 PM ET
Carter Hart is exceptional.

One thing, though, is that the Silvertips played to their strength, which means they played an extremely tight-checking game. Well structured, they don't give other teams much.

Unfortunately they don't really create a lot of offense as a result and it killed them.

My take:

Hart's a very good prospect. Numbers might be a little inflated due to the style of game his team played in front of him, but he never really gets rattled and he's gonna be a real, real good pro.
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

May 14 @ 1:04 PM ET
jonathan quick started in the echl. just saying.
- hammarby31


I'm pretty sure he played two years in Reading
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 14 @ 1:06 PM ET
Hopefully this will slow the roll on those who think Frost makes the Flyers out of camp next season.

It sounds like the kid needs to put on some muscle so he can withstand the rigors of playing with men.

And if he wants to be a center in the NHL, he will need to do that.

Giroux may be small, but by all accounts his offseason regimen is pretty hardcore.

- MBFlyerfan


Frost is being compared to Giroux by a few around here. Maybe they're right. Maybe they're wrong. I remember clear as day how sure the majority expected G to grab a roster spot right out of camp, only to be beaten by Steve Donnie. G's pre season game in London Ontario was easily the worst I saw him play.

I understand the circumstances of Giroux's wisdom teeth and all of that. What I'm trying to say, I wouldn't put expectations too high on Frost, Morin, Myers, German Rubtsov even Patrick himself. I think we're expecting a serious let down if we do. Scott Laughton took forever to get to the NHL level as a mainstay.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

May 14 @ 1:10 PM ET
No one is trading for Neuvy without us flat out giving away assets to take him. No one wants a backup goalie that can't stay healthy.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 14 @ 1:21 PM ET
No one is trading for Neuvy without us flat out giving away assets to take him. No one wants a backup goalie that can't stay healthy.
- hereticpride


Neuvy will be hurt by November, making this all a moot point.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 1:35 PM ET
What goalie drama in Philly? It's the favorite narrative.
- FlyersGrace


Yes but for once it may be a positive story.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 14 @ 1:37 PM ET
Frost is being compared to Giroux by a few around here. Maybe they're right. Maybe they're wrong. I remember clear as day how sure the majority expected G to grab a roster spot right out of camp, only to be beaten by Steve Donnie. G's pre season game in London Ontario was easily the worst I saw him play.

I understand the circumstances of Giroux's wisdom teeth and all of that. What I'm trying to say, I wouldn't put expectations too high on Frost, Morin, Myers, German Rubtsov even Patrick himself. I think we're expecting a serious let down if we do. Scott Laughton took forever to get to the NHL level as a mainstay.

- SuperSchennBros


LOL the kid showed at the end of the season he's a valid 2C in the NHL in his rookie year. Yeah we are putting unreasonable expectations on him
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 14 @ 1:47 PM ET
What goalie drama in Philly? It's the favorite narrative.
- FlyersGrace


it's not really drama, to me anyway.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

May 14 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'm pretty sure he played two years in Reading
- ajw12


and he had a rough go in the playoffs for a couple of years before winning in 2012. usually takes time.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 14 @ 1:49 PM ET
Agreed. I just don't want to be so quick to write off a 19 year old kid that many folks see promise in.
- johndewar


Totally agree. I gave the example of Radek Faksa. No reason why Rubtsov can't follow a similar track.
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