Depends what the asset is. If that asset is a good, established, young NHLer, I'm all for it. I'm done with mid-first lottery tickets that turn out to be Ennis and Girgensons for established players
- jcragcrumple

Agreed.

Jonathon Drouin was dealt for an unknown in Sergachev.

Flyers traded Brayden Coburn to the Lightning and ended up with Travis Konecny

How did the Jeff Carter trade end up for Philly?
- sbroads24

Badly. The Kings won two cups with two good players castaway from Philly.

Badly. The Kings won two cups with two good players castaway from Philly.
- jcragcrumple

And if it makes my team better in the long run, I don’t care how many cups O’Reilly wins.

The Flyers ended up with Jakub Voracek and Sean Couturier.

Carter and Richards proved they weren’t good enough to be the guys for that franchise, and Philly robbed other teams who thought they were

And if it makes my team better in the long run, I don’t care how many cups O’Reilly wins.

The Flyers ended up with Jakub Voracek and Sean Couturier.

Carter and Richards proved they weren’t good enough to be the guys for that franchise, and Philly robbed other teams who thought they were
- sbroads24

They were good enough to be cornerstones of two cups for the Kings, and Philly has zero hardware to show for it.

I've seen which way the winds are blowing on ROR for the better part of two years, and I get it. But there is so much dead money - over 20 mil - tied up in Bogo, Moulson, Pommer and Okposo. No team can survive having 20/72 million tied up in that.

Instead of addressing that problem, and the recent lack of useful cheap talent coming through the development pipeline, people are ready to throw the blame on ROR's shoulders.

It's wrong, and it will always be wrong

They were good enough to be cornerstones of two cups for the Kings, and Philly has zero hardware to show for it.

I've seen which way the winds are blowing on ROR for the better part of two years, and I get it. But there is so much dead money - over 20 mil - tied up in Bogo, Moulson, Pommer and Okposo. No team can survive having 20/72 million tied up in that.

Instead of addressing that problem, and the recent lack of useful cheap talent coming through the development pipeline, people are ready to throw the blame on ROR's shoulders.

It's wrong, and it will always be wrong
- jcragcrumple

Except they weren’t cornerstones.

Kopitar, Doughty and Quick were the corner stones. And I’m a big Carter fan. He won when he moved to a complimentary role.

Not to mention Philly didn’t trade him to LA. Columbus did.

And again, you’re assuming people are calling O’Reilly “the problem”.

We aren’t, we’re calling an O’Reilly trade a potential solution

I have no clue. GMs are huge pussies when it comes to offer sheets. I'd make a bet with you, but I know you'll just welch on it.
- Wetbandit1

When have i welched ? Ive done all my av bets

Jonathon Drouin was dealt for an unknown in Sergachev.

Flyers traded Brayden Coburn to the Lightning and ended up with Travis Konecny

How did the Jeff Carter trade end up for Philly?
- sbroads24

not really, as a prospect, he was the as close as one can be considered a sure thing to be an NHLer and not some work in progress guy

You can say he was unknown in what he would do in his first year in teh league, but there was no denying that kids talent.

Avs were so hard for him as a trade for Duchee, but ill take Sammy Girard, Shane Bowers, potentially a 2019 lottery pick and still more

not really, as a prospect, he was the as close as one can be considered a sure thing to be an NHLer and not some work in progress guy

You can say he was unknown in what he would do in his first year in teh league, but there was no denying that kids talent.

Avs were so hard for him as a trade for Duchee, but ill take Sammy Girard, Shane Bowers, potentially a 2019 lottery pick and still more
- DDM-Coga

He played 0 games in the NHL and wasn’t Connor McDavid.

He was an unknown

if they believe baptiste, nylander, bailey are ready for top 9 duty

and either smith or o regan


trading mccab and ror for a really good rd to play with dahlin may be in the cards


dahlin-player x
scandella-risto
guhle-nelson-new kid from sweden
- homiedclown

Can you really go into camp thinking more than 1 of them is ready for top 9?

Player x is good and all but I like Monster X better
- BeadyEyedDouche

then there is monster zero

Can you really go into camp thinking more than 1 of them is ready for top 9?
- Lunaion

I don't think Baptiste and Bailey will be 2 way next year. If they get waived, I think they have to clear and im sure someone will take them for free.
...Everyone else can stay in Rochester unless they kill it in training camp.

Can you really go into camp thinking more than 1 of them is ready for top 9?
- Lunaion

pretty sure botts did his homework with rochester

He played 0 games in the NHL and wasn’t Connor McDavid.

He was an unknown
- sbroads24

unknown gives the impression that he was some huge risk, im saying he was more a safe bet then a big risk as an "unknown"

And I was on record saying that Montreal would regret this trade as Sergachev is going to be solid

When have i welched ? Ive done all my av bets
- gerbe75pts

Doughnuts, draft trade.

unknown gives the impression that he was some huge risk, im saying he was more a safe bet then a big risk as an "unknown"

And I was on record saying that Montreal would regret this trade as Sergachev is going to be solid
- DDM-Coga

Sure, but I’m not talking about your version of unknown. I was replying to someone else

I don't think Baptiste and Bailey will be 2 way next year. If they get waived, I think they have to clear and im sure someone will take them for free.
...Everyone else can stay in Rochester unless they kill it in training camp.
- seedy

Two way deals are irrelevant. Baptiste and Bailey are no longer waiver exempt, the others are. I stand by my point, you can't go into camp projecting more than one of them in your top 9.

Doughnuts, draft trade.
- Wetbandit1

What are you talking about ?

Lucky Logan was a good movie the old vets would like it

What are you talking about ?
- gerbe75pts

jets in 6

jets in 6
- homiedclown

I'm saying in 5

Can we have Tomas Tatar Vegas is acting like he's a scrub

RoR to Arizona for Max , and 2018 first
- gerbe75pts

That's a pretty realistic trade. Is Arizona picking 5th?

Brady tkachuk would be fun.

We're gonna run ROR out of town, just like we do with all our good players, and we'll try to convince ourselves that the modest return we get will be better as the sum of the parts. Everyone will mf him on the way out of town and we'll be worse off.
- jcragcrumple

We're going to argue about ror. Not run him out of town.

Jbotts isn't going to give him away.
He has nhl value. Some people on here just don't get it.

Can we have Tomas Tatar Vegas is acting like he's a scrub
- gerbe75pts

Because he is

Two way deals are irrelevant. Baptiste and Bailey are no longer waiver exempt, the others are. I stand by my point, you can't go into camp projecting more than one of them in your top 9.
- Lunaion

OK....unless we do.
And then, we are.
And frankly, why would they instantly land in the top 9?