We are getting a good player at 32. Deep draft would have gone 18-20 range last year.
- Pegullaville

If we use that pick to move up to top 5 then I’m cool with trading it

I'm a busy executive. I don't have time to read this.

Nicely said, Kaiser. Not a sniper, but you could try to pry Domi out of the desert for #32 +, there's AA in Detroit who has a contentious relationship with the team, Hoffman whom I mentioned - as a side note here, if plecs can be traded to TML, Hoffman can be traded to Buf. Especially if you appeal to Melnyk's pocketbook.

There are many options to bring 2 legitimate top-6 LWs to Buffalo. Those moves, plus a full season of mitts, Erod, Dahlin and some of the other speedy youngins will make us so much better.

We started the year with Moulson, Griffith, larsson, Josefson, Nolan, Criscuolo last year. Dear lord.
- jcragcrumple

Are you Executive to the executive company and Does the executive co operator help you Executive

Are you Executive to the executive company and Does the executive co operator help you Executive
- gerbe75pts

I'm the CEO of shoveling poop and herding cats

I'm a busy executive. I don't have time to read this.

Nicely said, Kaiser. Not a sniper, but you could try to pry Domi out of the desert for #32 +, there's AA in Detroit who has a contentious relationship with the team, Hoffman whom I mentioned - as a side note here, if plecs can be traded to TML, Hoffman can be traded to Buf. Especially if you appeal to Melnyk's pocketbook.

There are many options to bring 2 legitimate top-6 LWs to Buffalo. Those moves, plus a full season of mitts, Erod, Dahlin and some of the other speedy youngins will make us so much better.

We started the year with Moulson, Griffith, larsson, Josefson, Nolan, Criscuolo last year. Dear lord.
- jcragcrumple

Why in the world would Arizona make this deal when we know that 32 will most likely be a 4th liner?

#32 is one of the most valuable trade assets the team has. You really want to give that away? I'd just bring Bogo back.
- Lunaion

#32 + Bogo is less than what $5.4M buys me on the open market IMO. 32 in this draft should be a decent forward in 3-4 years. Should be. I'd rather give Jack a better linemate now.

Obviously the NHL roster that we iced last season was not good enough. I also sense that the roster did not play the way that Housley wanted them to play, and that he would have preferred to spend more time in camp focusing on a puck moving style of play. His year end interviews made clear he intends to bring a different approach to camp this year: while the team showed in occasional short stints that they were capable of playing a puck moving style, once the season begins there isn't adequate time to really focus on any particular skill in practice, so that opportunity was more or less lost.

I believe that we are better as a result of Dahlin, and Mitts for a full year. I believe many of the players who were kept in the AHL last year have greater skills than the guys we had in the NHL last year. And I believe that a downward shift of 4 or 5 players into more appropriate roles on the team, coupled with a focus in camp on a fast style of play, will bring momentous improvement to the team. I don't think the same improvement will occur through simple operation of trading away any current top 6 player for prospects or picks.

I also believe we should explore the possibility of grabbing two young goal scorers somewhere through free agency or a trade of our own future picks. I don't have the time or the inclination to memorize who in the league those snipers may be, but I think it's clear that Jack needs a true goal scorer to play alongside, and finding a second would be fantastic.

I am hopeful that a foundation for a lot of the necessary improvement has been laid already, and remain hopeful that most of the growth can come from within, and from the lottery win.

Maybe I'm wrong. But I think the failures came from having only half a decent roster, and the fact that the game requires that the puck be shared by everybody on the team. I think that reality means we have to make upgrades to the overall roster, not only in two or three places, and that such overall changes require more gradual and evolutionary change, not transactional and episodic change.

So I don't have names for you. I don't know them, and don't want to. But I do have concepts.
- Der Kaiser

what if i told you certain players with high salaries couldn't play the style you are referring to even in a reduced role?

I'm done tanking, I'm pointing out that this last season smelled of a stealth tank.

Basically: a not so obvious tank. Which it clearly was.
- Boss34

There's nothing clear about that.

#32 + Bogo is less than what $5.4M buys me on the open market IMO. 32 in this draft should be a decent forward in 3-4 years. Should be. I'd rather give Jack a better linemate now.
- RhinoFan

I think you're way too focused on next year. Bogo's cap space isn't the key to any immediate move.

#32 is far too valuable to throw away.

There's nothing clear about that.
- TheSabresTaco

It's really not so clear either way, that's why the season was open to interpretation.

When the Sabres improve by 25-35 points this season, that will be the justification.

I have already purchased more season tickets.
#gold

I'm the CEO of shoveling poop and herding cats
- jcragcrumple

You can have my cat she’s a female dog

I think you're way too focused on next year. Bogo's cap space isn't the key to any immediate move.

#32 is far too valuable to throw away.
- Lunaion

I'm hearing it both ways from people.

pick 11 is almost guaranteed to be a 4th liner

pick 32 and a random + = Max Domi

Why in the world would Arizona make this deal when we know that 32 will most likely be a 4th liner?
- sbroads24

You'd have to ask a GM that

I think you're way too focused on next year. Bogo's cap space isn't the key to any immediate move.

#32 is far too valuable to throw away.
- Lunaion

I am very focused on next year as I think we need to turn this ship around. Trading away RoR for picks/prospects, IMO, is the exact wrong way to go about this. If you want to draft and develop, there's worse ways to do it I agree, but you're telling your fan base that 2020 is the best case scenario to even be competitive.

If I'm Jack, I ask to be traded by then.

Edit: May I ask you the same question as 365 asked? What would you do this offseason?

I'm hearing it both ways from people.

pick 11 is almost guaranteed to be a 4th liner

pick 32 and a random + = Max Domi
- sbroads24

I'm hearing it both ways from people.

pick 11 is almost guaranteed to be a 4th liner

pick 32 and a random + = Max Domi
- sbroads24

Compromise: #32 has value, good players have been drafted later and this is a deep draft according to scouts, but most likely will be a few years to develop and may not pan out at all?

I am very focused on next year as I think we need to turn this ship around. Trading away RoR for picks/prospects, IMO, is the exact wrong way to go about this. If you want to draft and develop, there's worse ways to do it I agree, but you're telling your fan base that 2020 is the best case scenario to even be competitive.

If I'm Jack, I ask to be traded by then.

Edit: May I ask you the same question as 365 asked? What would you do this offseason?
- RhinoFan

I'm right there with you. No more futures and maybes for good players. We need our good players now, and we need more, too

I am very focused on next year as I think we need to turn this ship around. Trading away RoR for picks/prospects, IMO, is the exact wrong way to go about this. If you want to draft and develop, there's worse ways to do it I agree, but you're telling your fan base that 2020 is the best case scenario to even be competitive.

If I'm Jack, I ask to be traded by then.

Edit: May I ask you the same question as 365 asked? What would you do this offseason?
- RhinoFan

Set this franchise up to have a 10 year window after the next lockout.

Dahlin, Eichel, Reinhart, Mitts and Guhle are the current “core members”.

Get value for O’Reilly now, and potentially move Ristolainen for a young scoring winger.

I'm right there with you. No more futures and maybes for good players. We need our good players now, and we need more, too
- jcragcrumple

I think Dahlin, Guhle and Mitts are all impact players. If they are, we are in a lot better shape now than we were this time last year at least.

Set this franchise up to have a 10 year window after the next lockout.

Dahlin, Eichel, Reinhart, Mitts and Guhle are the current “core members”.

Get value for O’Reilly now, and potentially move Ristolainen for a young scoring winger.
- sbroads24

Who is your goalie? What would you do in bottom 6?

I like the question. Eager to know what the spectrum of answers is.

I am very focused on next year as I think we need to turn this ship around. Trading away RoR for picks/prospects, IMO, is the exact wrong way to go about this. If you want to draft and develop, there's worse ways to do it I agree, but you're telling your fan base that 2020 is the best case scenario to even be competitive.

If I'm Jack, I ask to be traded by then.

Edit: May I ask you the same question as 365 asked? What would you do this offseason?
- RhinoFan

Sure, but I'm firmly in the move RoR camp.

-Listen to offers on Sam and Risto, but RoR is my preference to move

-Trade RoR for a package that includes a winger they see fitting long term with Jack (St Louis seems like a nice fit). Alternatively, I'd take a top 10 pick as the main piece, if it were offered.

-A few minor moves involving prospects. Have to address our log jam of bottom 6 RW's and guys who lose their wavier exemptions.

-Bring in a couple low risk FA's on 1-2 year deals, ideally two way high effort guys (Calvert sounds like a nice fit). If RoR is moved, then bring in a strong defensive C to bridge the gap to Asplund and take dzone pressure off Jack + Casey.

-Walk away from Lehner and bring in two guys they like, because you need three capable of playing significant NHL minutes.

-Hold on Bogo and Okposo. They have no real trade value and are likely to see some rebound.

Why in the world would Arizona make this deal when we know that 32 will most likely be a 4th liner?
- sbroads24

maybe instead offer a 3rd rounder.. you know they are the best picks in any draft

Who is your goalie? What would you do in bottom 6?

I like the question. Eager to know what the spectrum of answers is.
- RhinoFan

Ullmark and whomever.

Bottom 6 in two years should hopefully include Asplund, Pu, couple of other FA's or younger players.

I'm hearing it both ways from people.

pick 11 is almost guaranteed to be a 4th liner

pick 32 and a random + = Max Domi
- sbroads24

3rd rounders win you cups too

Ullmark and whomever.

Bottom 6 in two years should hopefully include Asplund, Pu, couple of other FA's or younger players.
- sbroads24

im not sold on Ullmark just yet. he has been inconsistent at best. Hopefully its just age but i don't know if he is a true #1 in the NHL. But if you have a truly good team up front and D you don't need a true #1 in net..

I think Dahlin, Guhle and Mitts are all impact players. If they are, we are in a lot better shape now than we were this time last year at least.
- RhinoFan

Just on defense, we're going from gorges, Beaulieu and Falk to Guhle, Dahlin and Nelson. The names of the bottom six scrubs who started last year are well known. Mitts, Erod and to a lesser extent, Wilson are light years better than Nolan, Moulson and Griffith. We're already so much better than 9 months ago.

Next year should be fun. I just hope Botts can acquire some LW skill