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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 15 @ 9:48 PM ET
Extremely small sample size,
But ok...
Why do 5v5 stats count more in the NHL than the NCAA?

- jdfitz77

Because the NHL is comprised of the most elite players in the world, playing in massively refined systems, at a higher speed, more physical and you know, actual MEN play the game.

He was basically playing with a bunch of boys that had the skill set of an over-30 men's pickup league in the NCAA, in the Big-10, facing some of the hardest competition in NCAA sports.

The fact he then came onto the WORST team in the NHL and put up 4 points in 5 games tells a lot. He at least (debatable) had NHL-Level talent to play along side. Against NHl goaltenders no less.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:49 PM ET
Is this from your sources ? Becuase I know Botts loves his depth down the middle and Eichel, ROR, MIttelstadt (if he lives up to the hype) could be the deepest in the East (hides)
- Pegullaville

the long term issue

when asplund and davidsson are ready, there will be no place on this roster for a ror
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

May 15 @ 9:49 PM ET
e-rod will be our 3rd line center this fall
- homiedclown

I can see that . Hope it works out.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 9:50 PM ET
you want the truth?


he is a soft wussy that turtles in the locker room

- homiedclown


Interesting
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 15 @ 9:50 PM ET
you want the truth?


he is a soft wussy that turtles in the locker room

- homiedclown

damn

I heard he doesn't even like Jameison.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
Because the NHL is comprised of the most elite players in the world, playing in massively refined systems, at a higher speed, more physical and you know, actual MEN play the game.

He was basically playing with a bunch of boys that had the skill set of an over-30 men's pickup league in the NCAA, in the Big-10, facing some of the hardest competition in NCAA sports.

The fact he then came onto the WORST team in the NHL and put up 4 points in 5 games tells a lot. He at least (debatable) had NHL-Level talent to play along side. Against NHl goaltenders no less.

- BeadyEyedDouche


It was 5 points in 6 games. But the most impressive thing about that is that in 5 of the 6 games he recorded a point. Its not like he had two multipoint games and was invisible for the other 4 and ended up with 5 points. He made an impact every night, coming off a month of basically sitting on the couch on the last place team in the league.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
Bc when u take ONE or even just a FEW analytics stats,
it doesn’t tell the WHOLE story
Leaves out way too much pertinent data

Thus, rendering making a judgment based on the few stats BS

The analytics that YOU subscribe to,
consider O’Reilly MUCH better than you do

That’s as contradictory as it get
s

When i asked,
U had no answer to explain the discrepancy
I’m assuming u still don’t

- jdfitz77

Not really. I’m allowed to disagree with whatever I want.

O’Reilly is very good defensively. I don’t disagree with that.

He’s a poor offense player for a guy played as much as he is.

And that’s literally the last thing I’m responding to on this topic with you
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:52 PM ET
point is the standings the last 3 years, nothing more, nothing less


I don't think they are going to move him


I also don't think he is special

IMO he is an average second line center that was over hyped by us and the league before murray signed him to a 7.5 mil long term contract

- homiedclown


Yet the Analytics Experts disagree with you
And the commentators (mostly ex- players, coaches, gms) disagree
And apparently coaches & gms disagree
And even O’Reilly’s peers across the whole league disagree

So you’ll have to excuse me when i side with EVERYONE ELSE instead of you, Sbroads, 365, and a handful of others

The EXPERTS & the NUMBERS all say that ROR is roughly a top25 Center
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:53 PM ET
damn

I heard he doesn't even like Jameison.

- BeadyEyedDouche


He eats the same thing as me

So you better get him out of there before he poisons dahlen
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 15 @ 9:53 PM ET
the long term issue

when asplund and davidsson are ready, there will be no place on this roster for a ror

- homiedclown


This I agree with. If ROR isn't traded this offseason he needs to be gone by the time Mittelstadt is signing his 2nd contract.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:54 PM ET
He's taken the place of Shane Doan.
- buffalofan19

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 15 @ 9:55 PM ET
When ROR ignored Jack eichel's fist bump I knew there was a problem
- gerbe75pts



It's the little things. That wasn't by accident.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:56 PM ET


So you’ll have to excuse me when i side with EVERYONE ELSE instead of you, Sbroads, 365, and a handful of others

The EXPERTS & the NUMBERS all say that ROR is roughly a top25 Center

- jdfitz77

we would not be dead last in the nhl with a top 25 center and jack eichel


stop pissing on my leg and tell me it's raining

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 15 @ 9:56 PM ET
It was 5 points in 6 games. But the most impressive thing about that is that in 5 of the 6 games he recorded a point. Its not like he had two multipoint games and was invisible for the other 4 and ended up with 5 points. He made an impact every night, coming off a month of basically sitting on the couch on the last place team in the league.
- Pegullaville

Whoops!

But spot-on
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:57 PM ET
damn

I heard he doesn't even like Jameison.

- BeadyEyedDouche

coming to practice sober is a good place to start showing team dedication


jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:57 PM ET
Because the NHL is comprised of the most elite players in the world, playing in massively refined systems, at a higher speed, more physical and you know, actual MEN play the game.

He was basically playing with a bunch of boys that had the skill set of an over-30 men's pickup league in the NCAA, in the Big-10, facing some of the hardest competition in NCAA sports.

The fact he then came onto the WORST team in the NHL and put up 4 points in 5 games tells a lot. He at least (debatable) had NHL-Level talent to play along side. Against NHl goaltenders no less.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Minnesota was ranked in the top25 for almost the entire season
That team wasn’t as bad as ppl make it out to be
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 9:58 PM ET
the long term issue

when asplund and davidsson are ready, there will be no place on this roster for a ror

- homiedclown


How can u possibly project how good those guys will be?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 9:59 PM ET
How can u possibly project how good those guys will be?
- jdfitz77

casey has second line center talent at least


one of them can run the 3rd line or e rod



ror will not finish this contract as a sabre
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
you want the truth?


he is a soft wussy that turtles in the locker room

- homiedclown


How so?
He’s constantly taking the blame in the media & saying he needs to do better

If it’s just that he’s not vocal,
then whatever
Not everyone is built to yell & scream
Doesn’t mean he cause locker room problems

Is me asking for specifics too much?
I’m not trying to call u out,
just trying to make some sense of what you’re saying
Bc it’s generally been pretty vague
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
coming to practice sober is a good place to start showing team dedication
- homiedclown

you can't expect an Irish boy who isn't a Mc to show up sober it's just not in their nature.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

May 15 @ 10:03 PM ET
How so?
He’s constantly taking the blame in the media & saying he needs to do better

If it’s just that he’s not vocal,
then whatever
Not everyone is built to yell & scream
Doesn’t mean he cause locker room problems

Is me asking for specifics too much?
I’m not trying to call u out,
just trying to make some sense of what you’re saying
Bc it’s generally been pretty vague

- jdfitz77

And then says he lost heart and doesn't get better
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:03 PM ET
having a oceans 8 with all women is beyond stupid
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 10:04 PM ET
How can u possibly project how good those guys will be?
- jdfitz77

has ror made us a better team


this is the elephant in the room

we got 2 more wins this year than the tank year with a top line of girgens, ennis and gionta

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 10:06 PM ET
And then says he lost heart and doesn't get better
- BeadyEyedDouche

there was a reason they tried reinhart as a center to start the year


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 15 @ 10:07 PM ET
having a oceans 8 with all women is beyond stupid
- gerbe75pts

I think it will be a top 25 movie


ish
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