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jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 16 @ 4:36 PM ET
well the dahlin part is pretty exciting
- Sabresfan-365

"We aren't getting the #1 pick, stop it"
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 4:37 PM ET
"We aren't getting the #1 pick, stop it"
- jochfr



The league is out to get us
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 16 @ 4:38 PM ET
The league is out to get us
- Sabresfan-365

Buffaluck
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
I’ve heard that in movies now I’m wondering what’s so great about him maybe I’m just use to my music
- gerbe75pts


Here's the thing, there wouldn't even BE a Tupac or a Fiddy, if it weren't for guys like Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, and perhaps one of my favorites, Blind Joe Reynolds:

Reynold’s real name was Joe Sheppard. He was blinded by a shotgun blast to the face in Louisiana in the mid to late 1920s, which resulted in the physical loss of his eyes. Despite this handicap, “Blind Joe” became known for his distinctive bottleneck style as well as his reported accuracy with a pistol, with which it is said he could judge the position of a target by sound alone. Reynolds is known to have been polyamorous, and misogynistic as is apparent from a number of his recordings. He was also known to be outspoken and flamboyant, often using his music as a medium to attack society. He only cut records between 1929 and 1930. Even in the digital age, his music is hard to come by.

Tell me that's not a gansta rapper.

Learn your history.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
Here's the thing, there wouldn't even BE a Tupac or a Fiddy, if it weren't for guys like Buddy Guy, Muddy Waters, and perhaps one of my favorites, Blind Joe Reynolds:

Reynold’s real name was Joe Sheppard. He was blinded by a shotgun blast to the face in Louisiana in the mid to late 1920s, which resulted in the physical loss of his eyes. Despite this handicap, “Blind Joe” became known for his distinctive bottleneck style as well as his reported accuracy with a pistol, with which it is said he could judge the position of a target by sound alone. Reynolds is known to have been polyamorous, and misogynistic as is apparent from a number of his recordings. He was also known to be outspoken and flamboyant, often using his music as a medium to attack society. He only cut records between 1929 and 1930. Even in the digital age, his music is hard to come by.

Tell me that's not a gansta rapper.

Learn your history.

- Wetbandit1


Learning something new
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:50 PM ET
Ristolainen to the Oilers for klefbom , Yamamoto
- gerbe75pts


I started this revolution
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
I started this revolution
- gerbe75pts

Remember the Alamo!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
jcrag you seem scared of change
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 16 @ 5:20 PM ET
Oh so we're back to trading Risto again?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
You're right, 925k is the max, 70k in the AHL. CapFriendly is showing 425k per year in bonuses, so I guess they are including those.
- Lunaion


Yeah, Jack's contract was worth almost $4M annually, but with only the $925K cap hit. This year alone the Sabres have $6.35M in potential bonus money.

Edit: Late. Guess I should've red a bit further.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
Oh so we're back to trading Risto again?
- feetontheair22



Nope.
There was a proposal to trade everyone who was not elite for elite players.
That was realized as pure folly.
So now,
We are going to stick with the current roster, plug and play some of the kids to replace old/sucky-ass veteran slugs who were here last year.
We are however still expecting to be elite though.

Making the Sabres Great again!
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 5:38 PM ET
https://twitter.com/dellowhockey/status/996808838459338754

oh god yes



- Sabresfan-365[url]Interesting listening to Rishaug speculating that the Oilers will go hard for a big name D; suggested Klefbom + 10 for Risto as an example.



Edit: im obviously way late


Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Klefbom isn't as good offensively, but better defensively, AND 10 OA? (frank) yeah.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

May 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
Yeah, I'd do that in a heartbeat. Klefbom isn't as good offensively, but better defensively, AND 10 OA? (frank) yeah.
- Wetbandit1

If Chiarelli really did that, my god.

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 5:47 PM ET
Oh so we're back to trading Risto again?
- feetontheair22


For a better player ,yes
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
Oh so we're back to trading Risto again?
- feetontheair22



klefbom is a better d-man and the 10th overall pick.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 16 @ 5:48 PM ET
For a better player ,yes
- gerbe75pts


I must have missed all those GMs lining up to trade away a top pair d-man or a 1st line winger....

cuz if we don't get one of those back, we are just spinning our tires.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:49 PM ET
I must have missed all those GMs lining up to trade away a top pair d-man or a 1st line winger....

cuz if we don't get one of those back, we are just spinning our tires.

- feetontheair22



klefbom is top pair...
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 16 @ 5:50 PM ET
klefbom is a better d-man and the 10th overall pick.
- Sabresfan-365


I disagree about Klefbom....but u know me...so that shouldn't be a surprise.

HOWEVER...if we are trading Risto...I want to go after the Habs pick (and yes i realize that we would need to add to get that)
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 5:52 PM ET
Im told this is a logical fallacy because all GMs are always smart all the time.
- Sabresfan-365


The inverse isn't always true either though.

To date Botterill hasn't done anything to make me think he's any better than the average guy. Benoit Balls was a decent signing, Beaulieu was a calculated gamble that fell short. Wilson was a pretty good move, but it was also low risk, low reward. Are we going to give him poop for drafting Dahlin because "anyone can do that?" like we did with Murray, while simultaneously not giving credit for Guhle and Nelson and maybe CJ Smith who at the very least makes Rochester better?

Botterill drafted Mittelstadt who fell into his lap, at least if you go by these rankings http://www.mynhldraft.com...t/2017-nhl-draft-rankings Throw out the high 2, and the low 12, and most are in the 4-8 range. So that didn't take much skill either. I'm not saying he's poop, at all. I'm simply saying that, to this point, he hasn't done anything to fill me with confidence that he's any better than average. That doesn't mean I don't think he can be better, just that I'm not sure where all your confidence comes from other than he was part of an organization that has the best player and like the 4th best player on their team.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
I disagree about Klefbom....but u know me...so that shouldn't be a surprise.

HOWEVER...if we are trading Risto...I want to go after the Habs pick (and yes i realize that we would need to add to get that)

- feetontheair22



How often have you seen klefbom play to really make that claim?

Most if not all of his numbers are significantly better than ristolainen's. It's really not even close.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
klefbom -dalhin

Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 16 @ 5:53 PM ET
If Chiarelli really did that, my god.
- sbroads24


I honestly don't know how he got hired after anyone saw this video:



The screen cap alone is filled with awful body language.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 16 @ 5:55 PM ET
I must have missed all those GMs lining up to trade away a top pair d-man or a 1st line winger....

cuz if we don't get one of those back, we are just spinning our tires.

- feetontheair22


We can use the 10th ,RoR for Galchenyuk and the 3rd

Like Stripes suggested
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 16 @ 5:55 PM ET
The inverse isn't always true either though.

To date Botterill hasn't done anything to make me think he's any better than the average guy. Benoit Balls was a decent signing, Beaulieu was a calculated gamble that fell short. Wilson was a pretty good move, but it was also low risk, low reward. Are we going to give him poop for drafting Dahlin because "anyone can do that?" like we did with Murray, while simultaneously not giving credit for Guhle and Nelson and maybe CJ Smith who at the very least makes Rochester better?

Botterill drafted Mittelstadt who fell into his lap, at least if you go by these rankings http://www.mynhldraft.com...t/2017-nhl-draft-rankings Throw out the high 2, and the low 12, and most are in the 4-8 range. So that didn't take much skill either. I'm not saying he's poop, at all. I'm simply saying that, to this point, he hasn't done anything to fill me with confidence that he's any better than average. That doesn't mean I don't think he can be better, just that I'm not sure where all your confidence comes from other than he was part of an organization that has the best player and like the 4th best player on their team.

- Wetbandit1


For a while there they weren't even contenders even with those two.

Most of the pens people credit their turn around to his addition to the management team (not solely but enough that they felt it was worth mentioning).

he had crosby and malkin to work with, and found ways to add guys like Guentzel. Here he's got Eichel and Dahlin. Not as big as 87+71 but you get the idea.

feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

May 16 @ 5:57 PM ET
We can use the 10th ,RoR for And the 3rd

Like Stripes suggested

- gerbe75pts


If we can pull that off...I'm down. I'm not happy about it, cuz I like Risto....but If we could swing Risto and ROR for Kelfbom (spelling) and Zadina/Svechnikov...that's pretty damn good.

But that's a BIG "if"
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