That's not the most important question of the day.

The most important question of the day is "Laurel or Yanny?"
- buffalofan19

Both

That's not the most important question of the day.

The most important question of the day is "Laurel or Yanny?"
- buffalofan19

Laurel

my bad i wasn't sure what you were alluding to, the poss exit% stat is percentage completed vs failed.
- Sabresfan-365

Ahh, ok. That makes sense now.

Both
- Wetbandit1

https://finance.yahoo.com...brey-jones-024822152.html

He's 120th in XGF/60 among D-men with 1000 or more minutes and somewhere in the bottom 60 in XGA/60.

Top 100 CF/60 for d-men 1000 or more minutes

Bottom 40 in CA/60


He's an offensive d-man sans puck movement ability. Ideal for the 2nd pair and some favourable zone starts.
- Sabresfan-365

Looking over some more numbers, they certainly don't scream offensive d to me. If the case is that he's better offensively than defensively, I can't argue that at all. It's kind of gross to look at actually.

Both
- Wetbandit1

Makes you wonder if the way I see blue, someone else sees it as I see red.

When Risto was out, Scandella filled in on the PP. I don't think anyone would give him an offensive label. If he had to fill in longer, and put up some more points, that wouldn't change how I characterized him as a defenseman.

Guhle is the only current Sabre I give that label to.
- Lunaion

Scandella has had 21 13 22 = 56 points the past 3 seasons

Risto 41 - 45 - 41 ="127 points

That's a big difference.

Makes you wonder if the way I see blue, someone else sees it as I see red.
- Hatboro_Swords

I just see a dress.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/voice-laurel-yanny-revealed-jay-aubrey-jones-024822152.html
- buffalofan19

I can still hear both. Though, it makes sense because, "yanny" isn't a word.

Makes you wonder if the way I see blue, someone else sees it as I see red.
- Hatboro_Swords

Perception is reality, mon frere.

Looking over some more numbers, they certainly don't scream offensive d to me. If the case is that he's better offensively than defensively, I can't argue that at all. It's kind of gross to look at actually.
- Lunaion

yeah between him and nylander it makes me kinda sad. The blown value in the top 10 is crippling

I can still hear both. Though, it makes sense because, "yanny" isn't a word.
- Wetbandit1

https://www.nytimes.com/i...-yanny-laurel-debate.html


I had to jack up the frequency pretty high before I heard what it wasn't supposed to be.

Makes you wonder if the way I see blue, someone else sees it as I see red.
- Hatboro_Swords

I see pink

I see pink
- gerbe75pts

I see Elephants. Pink ones.

How about ROR for Drouin straight up? Win win for both teams?

I just learned on Tucker Carlson that 🇨🇦 is more of a destination for irregular arrivals than Trump's 🇺🇸. Way to go 🇨🇦!

How about ROR for Drouin straight up? Win win for both teams?
- SabreWest

might be the most realistic trade offer I have heard for ror

nor did your parents having sex w/o a rubber
- homiedclown

Post of the ... forever.

I am not a fan of ror

I am not a fan of risto

I do not think sam reinhart will ever play in an all star game


but...

the moves that should be made

try to move pommer, bogo, okposo, beaulieu

figure out who is playing net with ullmark (bernier IMO)

continue to develop rochester

and if ror, risto or reinhart is an issue this fall, ship them out


reinhart is a 22 year old who scored 25 goals, we can't score goals

risto was easily our best d man before the dahlin era, we suck on d

ror could very well be a decent player to have if we ever get good

rant over

I just learned on Tucker Carlson that 🇨🇦 is more of a destination for irregular arrivals than Trump's 🇺🇸. Way to go 🇨🇦!
- Hatboro_Swords

One cannot learn from Tucker Carlson.

Post of the ... forever.
- JetpackJesus

I see pink
- gerbe75pts

I would definitely argue for that
- jcragcrumple

It’s just another stat that on its own, without context, is ridiculous

If ROR had wingers like Scheifele (Connor & Wheeler) or like Stastny (Laine & Ehlers)...
then the defensemen wouldn’t converge & attack on O’Reilly like they would with the wingers ROR mostly played with
Obviously the defense isn’t gonna respect Pouliot or Girgensons, or even decent players (but not great skaters) in Reinhart & Okposo

But none of that is ever considered when u just look at the one simple stat & don’t apply the particular situations or each player & team

I’ll say it again...
If O’Reilly was 2C instead of Stastny,
and Risto was in the top4 of the Jets defense...
Winnipeg would still be just as good & contending for the Cup

if i'm not mistaken, he's one of only three sabres d-men to ever do that
- Michael Pachla

Housley & who else?
Maybe someone in the Hasek era...
Zhitnik? Patrick?
Neither of them seem right though

What other “offensive” defenseman did we have over the years?

yeah between him and nylander it makes me kinda sad. The blown value in the top 10 is crippling
- Sabresfan-365

Wait, say that again....?