How in a debate about culture is asking why the last 10 coaches failed to change the culture polluting the argument?

If Josh Allen is good the Bills will be good, if Josh Allen is bad the Bills will be bad and it has zero to do with culture.
- ImThatGuy

Can you accept the fact that some know how to change culture and others do not?

Very well done!
May I add that culture includes having a leadership in ownership, management, and player ranks that hold one another accountable to all be pulling the oars in the right direction and speed such that the whole is greater than the sum of the parts.

When leadership is lost. ... as I need your Detroit example, then the accountability to said culture of buying into one for all and all for one goes as well...hence a rather dramatic breakdown.

Some get it, others don’t.
Get rid of those who don’t ...unless you like oiling the poop out of several bad ball bearings and accept subpar performace. But when gunning for a championship, best to replace the bad parts.
- IonSabres

Quality addendum. I don't want to accuse people of never playing sports at a reasonably high level, but when you do, you realize how important leadership is, especially in heavy team-oriented sports like football and hockey.

Is it because none of those coaches were able to find a QB?
Or
Was it because they failed to properly define the culture?
- ImThatGuy

What is and What Should Never Be


(QB)

Deadpool 2 was the tits 9.5 / 10

Can you accept the fact that some know how to change culture and others do not?
- IonSabres

Nobody's Fault But Mine

Deadpool 2 was the tits 9.5 / 10
- gerbe75pts

Ramble On

Quality addendum. I don't want to accuse people of never playing sports at a reasonably high level, but when you do, you realize how important leadership is, especially in heavy team-oriented sports like football and hockey.
- TheSabresTaco

It is very evident that many have not experienced leadership in sports or at work.
The effect is rather profound really.

Ramble On
- LandlordTom

Those who don’t know leadership...well they are on a
Misty Mountain Hop

Ramble On
- LandlordTom

Everyday is a ramble

Everyday is a ramble
- gerbe75pts

Another one over your head.

Those who don’t know leadership...well they are on a
Misty Mountain Hop
- IonSabres

Bring in better players you start winning and everyone will follow the new direction of the team

How in a debate about culture is asking why the last 10 coaches failed to change the culture polluting the argument?

If Josh Allen is good the Bills will be good, if Josh Allen is bad the Bills will be bad and it has zero to do with culture.
- ImThatGuy

One of the reasons Josh Allen was drafted was because he's the type of person that fit the organization's ideal player personalities.

Is Josh Rosen more game ready than Josh Allen? Apparently. But there must be reasons why we jumped 5 spots to not pick him. And one of those reasons is undeniably his personality.

Whether the Bills whiff on Allen or not, I will still fully endorse the pair's ability to bring in the right culture, even if they lose. Talent isn't culture and culture isn't talent.

Another one over your head.
- IonSabres

No I saw the bird

Bring in better players you start winning and everyone will follow the new direction of the team
- gerbe75pts

Haven’t played much sports there eh?
Haven’t had a serious job yet eh?
Thought so.

No I saw the bird
- gerbe75pts

No Quarter

No I saw the bird
- gerbe75pts

Confirmed.

No Quarter
- LandlordTom

He needs to take
A stairway to heaven
Very soon.

Can you accept the fact that some know how to change culture and others do not?
- IonSabres

C'mon man, you are telling me not one coach was able to get his team to "Buy In" in the last 18 years.

Haven’t played much sports there eh?
Haven’t had a serious job yet eh?
Thought so.
- IonSabres

He's right.


Better talent = more wins = Magically having better culture.
Amazing how that works.

Another one over your head.
- IonSabres

I think I dropped this band on him the other day

He needs to take
A stairway to heaven
Very soon.
- IonSabres

I'd prefer it be
Over the Hills and Far Away

Quality addendum. I don't want to accuse people of never playing sports at a reasonably high level, but when you do, you realize how important leadership is, especially in heavy team-oriented sports like football and hockey.
- TheSabresTaco

Was it Joey Votto who said earlier this year that culture was bogus, and it was all about talent? It was a good MLB'er but I can't remember if it's him or not.

Either way, MLB is a pretty high level

One of the reasons Josh Allen was drafted was because he's the type of person that fit the organization's ideal player personalities.

Is Josh Rosen more game ready than Josh Allen? Apparently. But there must be reasons why we jumped 5 spots to not pick him. And one of those reasons is undeniably his personality.

Whether the Bills whiff on Allen or not, I will still fully endorse the pair's ability to bring in the right culture, even if they lose. Talent isn't culture and culture isn't talent.
- TheSabresTaco

So again, Culture is a buzzword that has zero effect on winning and losing.
And we are back to where we started.

C'mon man, you are telling me not one coach was able to get his team to "Buy In" in the last 18 years.
- ImThatGuy

You can have the best leader in the universe, and s/he could be leading players that don't or won't ever care, and it will be a failure.

And let's not discount ability.

You keep inferring that culture=success. That's not true. Culture is an important component of success.

Haven’t played much sports there eh?
Haven’t had a serious job yet eh?
Thought so.
- IonSabres

Yes Talent wins sorry