didn't his highest point total come at wing?
- Sabresfan-365

I have no idea. I couldn't find a point designation of Wing V Center.

I have no idea. I couldn't find a point designation of Wing V Center.
- ImThatGuy

Me either. And if you can't i have no chance

I don't know where you're getting this from, Lehner's not getting a pass, he's probably not even getting qualified.
- Sabresfan-365

Clearly lehner is more of a reason we came in last place by 5 points. Making 4 plus million.

Not sure why most people are hating on the 61 point face off record breaking, team canada guy?

I get the trade ror while he has value ect., but seriously, hes our 3rd best player.

Eichel
Risto
Ror

Clearly lehner is more of a reason we came in last place by 5 points. Making 4 plus million.

Not sure why most people are hating on the 61 point face off record breaking, team canada guy?

I get the trade ror while he has value ect., but seriously, hes our 3rd best player.

Eichel
Risto
Ror
- Boss34

Probably because I don't agree with any of that nor do I place any serious value in ability.

Clearly lehner is more of a reason we came in last place by 5 points. Making 4 plus million.

Not sure why most people are hating on the 61 point face off record breaking, team canada guy?

I get the trade ror while he has value ect., but seriously, hes our 3rd best player.

Eichel
Risto
Ror
- Boss34

He can get the Sabres the most in trade. The team Canada guy decided he did not feel like playing this year for a majority of the year.
Again, he was brought in to be a leader, he decided not to be, that is on him.

But hey he needs to be better, just ask him, im sure he will tell you over and over and over again.

Probably because I don't agree with any of that nor do I place any serious value in ability.
- Sabresfan-365

Maybe you can try and decode your post?

You place no value on ability?

Then what is valuable? Results?

I have no idea. I couldn't find a point designation of Wing V Center.
- ImThatGuy

Corsica has him on the wing in the majority of the line combinations for 2013-14

Probably because I don't agree with any of that nor do I place any serious value in ability.
- Sabresfan-365

This is RORs ceiling, he is not going to get any better.

In 2-3 years he will be on the downside of his career, strike while the iron is hot.

Maybe you can try and decode your post?

You place no value on ability?

Then what is valuable? Results?
- Boss34

sorry forgot to bold the faceoff bit

This is RORs ceiling, he is not going to get any better.

In 2-3 years he will be on the downside of his career, strike while the iron is hot.
- ImThatGuy

I get the impression that Botts is a little gun shy. He'll probably want to see how they do with Dahlin, Casey, Guhle etc. here.

He can get the Sabres the most in trade. The team Canada guy decided he did not feel like playing this year for a majority of the year.
Again, he was brought in to be a leader, he decided not to be, that is on him.

But hey he needs to be better, just ask him, im sure he will tell you over and over and over again.
- ImThatGuy

Who said he was brought in to be a leader?
The brilliant gmtm?
Everyone on the planet knows eichel is going to be the captain, as was McDavid would have been.

He is wearing an "A" for team canada and for the Sabres the past few years.

Didnt the players vote him the MVP here in 2016?

Wearing the A , means that a player is a leader

The after practice ror practices, sounds like a leader.

Big deal he whined about hating to lose and that it wore on him. He hates losing.

Sam didn't say anything to the media. Cant hit the gym.
No invite to team canada. He gets a free pass too

Glaring weakness = goaltending and a top winger.

Pretty set otherwise
- Boss34

I just don't see it that way. I think every winger on this roster is a question mark and they need 3 top 6 wingers. Even Sam comes with plenty of uncertainty. People are counting on way too many second and third tier prospects to break through.

I have no idea. I couldn't find a point designation of Wing V Center.
- ImThatGuy

If I were to guess 13/14 when he had 64 points he played mostly wing.

My reasoning is he only took 371 fo in 80 games.

He took 456 fo in 29 games the year prior and 1334 the year following.

Again just taking an educated guess.

Clearly lehner is more of a reason we came in last place by 5 points. Making 4 plus million.

Not sure why most people are hating on the 61 point face off record breaking, team canada guy?

I get the trade ror while he has value ect., but seriously, hes our 3rd best player.

Eichel
Risto
Ror
- Boss34

No one is talking about Lehner because most have come to a general consensus that he is garbage, is not worth pick 21, and will not be with Buffalo going forward. They talk about RoR because he is an asset under contract(some view him as underperforming, I don't, just don't see him fitting the mold of THIS team going forward.) There is your answer about Lehner. Now never bring him again so we can all yell at each other about player of the day, which will (God please) never be Lehner again.

I just don't see it that way. I think every winger on this roster is a question mark and they need 3 top 6 wingers. Even Sam comes with plenty of uncertainty. People are counting on way too many second and third tier prospects to break through.
- Lunaion

8 wingers for a starting roster.

Okposo
Sam
Girgs
Wilson
Pommer
Erod - I learned his natural position is LW

Ror - could switch to wing

Vanek?
Neal?
Bailey
Babs
Cj smith

We need 2 good wingers. Hopefully we sign a free agent and someone steps up thru our system.

Goalie is ullmark and his 5 nhl games
Lehner and Chad are tankers

[quote=Boss34]Who said he was brought in to be a leader?
The brilliant gmtm?

Go look at his quotes from his time in Col. He wanted to be not only a leader, he wanted to be The leader. So I would say he, himself, said bring me in and I'll lead. Problem is it kinda led us the wrong way.

I get the impression that Botts is a little gun shy. He'll probably want to see how they do with Dahlin, Casey, Guhle etc. here.
- Sabresfan-365

How can people expect the Sabres go from center being a position of strength to a position of weakness if they trade ROR?

I can see ROR being dealt in a package but for another veteran, productive center that also brings a productive, speedy winger but not trade ROR straight up for a winger.

TSN
@TSN_Sports
7m7 minutes ago
FINAL: Ryan O'Reilly scores in overtime to give Team 🇨🇦 a 5-4 win over Team 🇷🇺 and Canada will be moving on to the Semis!

Assistant Captain Clutch!
- GilPerreault11

Hopefully this tournament increases his value even more

Hopefully this tournament increases his value even more
- gerbe75pts

Eichel and Mitts centers 1 and 2.

How can people expect the Sabres go from center being a position of strength to a position of weakness if they trade ROR?

I can see ROR being dealt in a package but for another veteran, productive center that also brings a productive, speedy winger but not trade ROR straight up for a winger.
- GilPerreault11

I'm wary of the quick fix approach, ie., Trade ROR, trade Reinhart, trade Risto, sign JT. I think we may open new holes and be left in the same position. I'm all for seeing how the existing guys mesh with the new talent, and build depth.

This is RORs ceiling, he is not going to get any better.

In 2-3 years he will be on the downside of his career, strike while the iron is hot.
- ImThatGuy

Agree ... trade him ASAP.... Buffalo has enough Slugs .... need more speed to be able to keep up with teams like LV

Who said he was brought in to be a leader?
The brilliant gmtm?
Everyone on the planet knows eichel is going to be the captain, as was McDavid would have been.

He is wearing an "A" for team canada and for the Sabres the past few years.

Didnt the players vote him the MVP here in 2016?

Wearing the A , means that a player is a leader

The after practice ror practices, sounds like a leader.

Big deal he whined about hating to lose and that it wore on him. He hates losing.

Sam didn't say anything to the media. Cant hit the gym.
No invite to team canada. He gets a free pass too
- Boss34

False, he was invited, he did not go because his contract is up.

Eichel and Mitts centers 1 and 2.
- GilPerreault11

Whats wrong with that ?

[quote=Boss34]Who said he was brought in to be a leader?
The brilliant gmtm?

Go look at his quotes from his time in Col. He wanted to be not only a leader, he wanted to be The leader. So I would say he, himself, said bring me in and I'll lead. Problem is it kinda led us the wrong way.
- SDSabre

Patrick Roy was disappointed in his leadership ability after he left the team.

Whats wrong with that ?
- gerbe75pts

Mitts has played 6 games in the NHL that's what. He wasn't a top 3 pick, he was an 8th overall, he is going to take time to develop. Eichel is going into his 4th year and he still can't play both ends of the rink.