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LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
BPA whoever hasnt been taken 😆

Any of the top 4 forwards or Dahlin/ Dobson/ Bouchard

- manvanfan

BPA is subjective, just gotta hope your GM gets it right.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
I honestly think you need a good mix of both in a front office. Can’t go full analytics and can’t go full old school.
- Nucker101

Agreed. At one time I would have argued old school for sure but times change. Today's NHL sure is showing you need to have diverse thinking in so many ways.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
BPA is subjective, just gotta hope your GM gets it right.
- LeftCoaster

This
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
sam bennet at 4
- Bettmanhatesus

Just misunderstood.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 12:56 PM ET
That was a great pick



Barzal

- Nucker101

I see a pattern with Snow here
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
Just misunderstood.
- manvanfan


He was in his prime when he was 18
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
BPA is subjective, just gotta hope your GM gets it right.
- LeftCoaster

Sorry, your teams GM BPA. 😒
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 12:57 PM ET
I see a pattern with Snow here
- LeftCoaster


Traded away Nino too after rushing him into the NHL
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 12:59 PM ET
Traded away Nino too after rushing him into the NHL
- Nucker101

Still employed which is why Tavares is signing with the Canucks!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:00 PM ET
Still employed which is why Tavares is signing with the Canucks!
- LeftCoaster

BFF Gagner
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 1:05 PM ET
BFF Gagner
- VANTEL

Great signing by Benning
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 20 @ 1:07 PM ET

I have no idea who's going to be the best d-man out of
Hughes
Boqvist
Bouchard
Dobson


But I would bet money that one of these 4 is going to bust big time.
I just hope it isnt our guy
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 1:08 PM ET
Traded away Nino too after rushing him into the NHL
- Nucker101

Quite a few players from the 2010 and 2011 draft had their best years ever. 24-25-26 year olds. Good players that took another step.

If Sam Bennett could be had for a 3rd rounder or down, or a prospect that isn't in Van's top 8 prospects. I would take him in a heart beat.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 20 @ 1:11 PM ET
I have no idea who's going to be the best d-man out of
Hughes
Boqvist
Bouchard
Dobson


But I would bet money that one of these 4 is going to bust big time.
I just hope it isnt our guy

- classic321


Bouchard or Hughes will bust
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

May 20 @ 1:15 PM ET
He was in his prime when he was 18
- Nucker101

I had a talk with bennets cousin back then and I told him he needs time in the minors and he disagreed, guess I was right.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 20 @ 1:17 PM ET
He was in his prime when he was 18
- Nucker101



Now it's all downhill

Bennett takes WAY too many penalties.

He is the top 15 in minors taken, and he doesnt even have tough matchups.
I mean the top 15 has good players like Subban, and Hamilton etc.
Bennett is just lazy

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 1:29 PM ET
I have no idea who's going to be the best d-man out of
Hughes
Boqvist
Bouchard
Dobson


But I would bet money that one of these 4 is going to bust big time.
I just hope it isnt our guy

- classic321

Luke Schenn 57 7 21 28
Jared Cowen 48 7 14 21
E.Gudbranson 41 2 21 23
D. Siemens 72 5 38 43
G. Reinhart 58 12 24 36
S. Morin 46 4 12 16

These are most of the draft "busts" from 08-13. Picked higher up in their draft year and their draft year numbers.

Literally just going by the numbers. I wouldn't have taken any of them within the top 15.

All 4 of those guys above are ppg players in their leagues this season, except for Hughes who basically played up in years and was still close to a ppg.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 1:34 PM ET
Luke Schenn 57 7 21 28
Jared Cowen 48 7 14 21
E.Gudbranson 41 2 21 23
D. Siemens 72 5 38 43
G. Reinhart 58 12 24 36
S. Morin 46 4 12 16

These are most of the draft "busts" from 08-13. Picked higher up in their draft year and their draft year numbers.

Literally just going by the numbers. I wouldn't have taken any of them within the top 15.

All 4 of those guys above are ppg players in their leagues this season, except for Hughes who basically played up in years and was still close to a ppg.

- manvanfan

Yeah, I think scouts have smartened up in this regard in recent years
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

May 20 @ 1:38 PM ET
I have no idea who's going to be the best d-man out of
Hughes
Boqvist
Bouchard
Dobson


But I would bet money that one of these 4 is going to bust big time.
I just hope it isnt our guy

- classic321


Hughes or Boqvist will bust, iI lean more towards Boqvist.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 1:45 PM ET
Hughes or Boqvist will bust, iI lean more towards Boqvist.
- Reubenkincade


I don't know which one of the four won't live up to expectations that is why I say draft a forward
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 1:50 PM ET
Yeah, I think scouts have smartened up in this regard in recent years
- Nucker101

Most of those guys are big body guys that from what I can remember and even now, aren't very good at skating. If you can't put up numbers in Junior leagues, chances of you doing it in the NHL are slim.

I wonder if some of those players were drafted much later, would the pressure be off and they turn out differently.

I think the difference between Merkley and Boqvist (both ppg players, same size, same attributes) is that Boqvist makes an attempt at playing defence and is trying. Where Merkley just plain sucks and doesn't seem to get it.

I think Merkley has the worst plus/minus of all defenders in the draft.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 1:59 PM ET
Most of those guys are big body guys that from what I can remember and even now, aren't very good at skating. If you can't put up numbers in Junior leagues, chances of you doing it in the NHL are slim.

I wonder if some of those players were drafted much later, would the pressure be off and they turn out differently.

I think the difference between Merkley and Boqvist (both ppg players, same size, same attributes) is that Boqvist makes an attempt at playing defence and is trying. Where Merkley just plain sucks and doesn't seem to get it.

I think Merkley has the worst plus/minus of all defenders in the draft.

- manvanfan


Merkley should be a winger. Probably wouldn’t be as good offensively, but at least he wouldn’t kill his team defensively. I’d hate being that guy’s teammate.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 2:14 PM ET
I don't know which one of the four won't live up to expectations that is why I say draft a forward
- VANTEL

What if the forward busts?

We have three failures from the top of the first round already, potentially more, thankfully only one so far is Bennings (Virtanen). This has gotta stop!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 2:28 PM ET
What if the forward busts?

We have three failures from the top of the first round already, potentially more, thankfully only one so far is Bennings (Virtanen). This has gotta stop!

- LeftCoaster

Better % in the top of the draft with forwards.

That is why if your team is lousy , you tank and not win meaningless games . We should be drafting top 3 every year not 5 67
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

May 20 @ 2:30 PM ET
Hughes or Boqvist will bust, iI lean more towards Boqvist.
- Reubenkincade



I lean towards him as well.

He wasnt even in the 2nd tier league in the SHL
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