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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 5:58 PM ET
Talking expansion draft...

We did get Kurtenbach

- Nighthawk

I am not talking expansion draft .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 5:59 PM ET
When you hang on too long yes. Timing timing timing
- VANTEL



Its why MG is long gone đź‘Ť
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
Getting picks to protect players from an expansion team is apples & oranges from EVERY other expansion draft.
- Nighthawk

I believe you could only protect 10 or 9 players, that left A LOT of good players available to choose from.

* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
Imagine if we had a defense like that..................John Garrett or you could play goal.
- A_SteamingLombardi

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 20 @ 6:00 PM ET
MAF a starting goalie
Neal a big scorer.

Aah throw aways?

- Nighthawk

In a salary cap era they are throw aways.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
Just proves there are a lot of dummy GMs
- VANTEL

It's a magical run.

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 6:01 PM ET
I am not talking expansion draft .
- VANTEL



U said JB look it doesn’t take 10yrs.
Ok a MAF falls off a tree & starting from scratch without anchor contracts.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
When you hang on too long yes. Timing timing timing
- VANTEL

Yup....need to Bill Belichick them (trades guys in their prime)
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
I believe you could only protect 10 or 9 players, that left ALOT of good players available to choose from.

* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft:
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

- LeftCoaster



We gave up Sbisa We did get to keep Hutton
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
Yup....need to Bill Belichick them (trades guys in their prime)
- LeftCoaster

Just after prime
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
Just proves there are a lot of dummy GMs
- VANTEL


Can't really blame Columbus with Karlsson, no one saw that coming. Florida, Minny, Nashville really helped them out big time. Minny was in a tough spot though

Surprised Nashville didn't just trade Neal. Guess they preferred to keep Smith/Sissons instead of losing 2 forward since Vegas likely takes Smith/Sissons if Nashville traded Neal.


Florida was just plan stupid, lol at giving up a 30 goal scorer + another top 9 forward just to protect Bjugstad and Petrovic
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
We gave up Sbisa We did get to keep Hutton
- VANTEL

Poor organizational depth was our saviour
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 6:03 PM ET
Canucks had Sedins Kesler Burrows Edler Garrisson Tanev Hamhuis when Benning started.Not exactly bad players either
- VANTEL

All very much over the hill and slow except for Tanev who is always injuried
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
Yup....need to Bill Belichick them (trades guys in their prime)
- LeftCoaster


Easier to do in the NFL, but I agree. Better to trade a guy 1 year too early than 1 year too late.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
In a salary cap era they are throw aways.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Get a grip.

Preds had too many D to expose.
So Neal became available.
Preds had no cap issues.
Pens could only protect 1 goalie.
LeftCoaster
Anaheim Ducks
Location: Duck City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 20 @ 6:05 PM ET
Can't really blame Columbus with Karlsson, no one saw that coming. Florida, Minny, Nashville really helped them out big time. Minny was in a tough spot though

Surprised Nashville didn't just trade Neal. Guess they preferred to keep Smith/Sissons instead of losing 2 forward since Vegas likely takes Smith/Sissons if Nashville traded Neal.


Florida was just plan stupid, lol at giving up a 30 goal scorer + another top 9 forward just to protect Bjugstad and Petrovic

- Nucker101

Inexcusable.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
Can't really blame Columbus with Karlsson, no one saw that coming. Florida, Minny, Nashville really helped them out big time. Minny was in a tough spot though

Surprised Nashville didn't just trade Neal. Guess they preferred to keep Smith/Sissons instead of losing 2 forward since Vegas likely takes Smith/Sissons if Nashville traded Neal.


Florida was just plan stupid, lol at giving up a 30 goal scorer + another top 9 forward just to protect Bjugstad and Petrovic

- Nucker101

Thanks to trading a 30 goal scorer and top 9 forward allowed Bjugstad to have his best season ever.

They gave up 75 and 44 for 49 points. Dale Tallon answered defence wins championships.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
Easier to do in the NFL, but I agree. Better to trade a guy 1 year too early than 1 year too late.
- Nucker101



Contracts are not guaranteed in the NFL.
Sometimes money is.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 6:06 PM ET
All very much over the hill and slow except for Tanev who is always injuried
- manvanfan


Wrong

We're talking about what Benning started with


Kesler was coming off of a 25 goal season and was nominated for the Selke with the Ducks lol

Edler just this year is coming off of his 4th highest point total ever.

Sedins put up 70 point seasons during Benning's first year here
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
Poor organizational depth was our saviour
- LeftCoaster



Only part of MG’s legacy that helped us lol
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

May 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
G. McPhee also didn't start with a bunch of garbage.
- manvanfan

I'd have to agree.
blank canvas, blank payroll, were gifted expansion draft conditions without any competition from another expansion team, gifted draft picks, no players needing to be moved out etc
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 6:07 PM ET
U said JB look it doesn’t take 10yrs.
Ok a MAF falls off a tree & starting from scratch without anchor contracts.

- Nighthawk



MAF was on the trade block all year . We have Markstrom and Nilsson . Why did we not trade ? Marchesseault Neal Theodore all on the block all year . Meanwhile we are worried about protecting our all stars. How about Markstrom and a second to Pittsburg for MAF.

Excuses
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 20 @ 6:08 PM ET
I'd have to agree.
blank canvas, blank payroll, were gifted expansion draft conditions without any competition from another expansion team, gifted draft picks, no players needing to be moved out etc

- SMBDragon


I do agree that he was given a hell of a running start. A blank slate + those expansion rules in the cap era is a very solid position to be in. Even if he did technically start with "nothing"


Also, hiring Gallant was a fantastic move.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
MAF was on the trade block all year . We have Markstrom and Nilsson . Why did we not trade ? Marchesseault Neal Theodore all on the block all year . Meanwhile we are worried about protecting our all stars. How about Markstrom and a second to Pittsburg for MAF.

Excuses

- VANTEL



MAF was not on the trade block all year.
JR kept him for the cup run.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 20 @ 6:09 PM ET
All very much over the hill and slow except for Tanev who is always injuried
- manvanfan


Bingo hanging on to trade assets too long . Should have been moved all of them . We are always a day late and a dollar short.
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