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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 19 @ 11:37 AM ET
Hell of a career he had HOF for sure
- gerbe75pts



Puts the hawks in a position to trade toews or kane.

Jbotts , pk88 might be available
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 19 @ 12:15 PM ET
Puts the hawks in a position to trade toews or kane.

Jbotts , pk88 might be available

- Boss34


He’s on the old side now but still elite depending on cost I’m cool

Still rather go younger put you can’t be picky about elite talent
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 19 @ 12:17 PM ET
He’s on the old side now but still elite depending on cost I’m cool

Still rather go younger put you can’t be picky about elite talent

- gerbe75pts



O'Reilly, Nylander, add something less valuable than those two.

for

Kane, low draft pick

EDIT: could replace O'Reilly with Ristolainen
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 19 @ 12:19 PM ET
O'Reilly, Nylander, add something less valuable than those two.

for

Kane, low draft pick

EDIT: could replace O'Reilly with Ristolainen

- buffalofan19


That sounds like a ok trade to me
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 19 @ 12:23 PM ET
So Kane’s going to be 30 can he be elite for 5 more years or will he slowly decline from being in the nhl for a long time
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 19 @ 12:24 PM ET
So Kane’s going to be 30 can he be elite for 5 more years or will he slowly decline from being in the nhl for a long time
- gerbe75pts



As long as he plays with a really good center, he will be effective well into his late 30s.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 19 @ 12:25 PM ET
Side Note: Pita Gourmet is really, really good.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 19 @ 12:28 PM ET
O'Reilly, Nylander, add something less valuable than those two.

for

Kane, low draft pick

EDIT: could replace O'Reilly with Ristolainen

- buffalofan19



I could see Chicago wanting Risto, but you're not getting Kane for him

The Sabres would need to move ROR for blue line help then...looking at you Carolina

Risto Nylander and 32nd overall for Kane

ROR for Faulk

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 12:30 PM ET
Hossa retires, I wonder what that means for their cap, and if there are any recapture penalties.

https://www.prosportsdail...ssa-to-retire-513648.html

- Mentalorgasm5


There would be a recapture penalty. I don't think this article is saying he's officially retiring, just that he's not going to play again. I think he's just staying on LTIR.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 19 @ 12:37 PM ET
I could see Chicago wanting Risto, but you're not getting Kane for him

The Sabres would need to move ROR for blue line help then...looking at you Carolina

Risto Nylander and 32nd overall for Kane

ROR for Faulk

- Stripes77


He said "for the right deal". That is what I would do. I really didn't factor whether or not Chicago would do it, but you're probably right.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
There would be a recapture penalty. I don't think this article is saying he's officially retiring, just that he's not going to play again. I think he's just staying on LTIR.
- Lunaion



Yup a la Pronger

It won't effect the Hawks cap during the season just the offseason
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
He said "for the right deal". That is what I would do. I really didn't factor whether or not Chicago would do it, but you're probably right.
- buffalofan19



Very true

Pat Kane isn't going anywhere IMO
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 19 @ 12:43 PM ET
John Vogl at the BN did a nice piece on the sabres shooting woes.

It's well worth the read, but here's one fact

Buffalo's overall shooting percentage this season was 7.7 percent. Of the 763 seasons put together by NHL teams since 1990, that ranks 745th.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 19 @ 12:46 PM ET
There would be a recapture penalty. I don't think this article is saying he's officially retiring, just that he's not going to play again. I think he's just staying on LTIR.
- Lunaion


How is that not cap circumvention? Come on.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 12:50 PM ET
How is that not cap circumvention? Come on.
- kingcong39


It essentially is, but you know the league has no issue with it. It's far from the first time.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 19 @ 12:52 PM ET
How is that not cap circumvention? Come on.
- kingcong39



It's the same thing Pronger did

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 19 @ 12:55 PM ET
It's the same thing Pronger did
- Stripes77


The scummier one to me is Kovy. The team had severe money problems just when the ruble was high due to oil prices, so the league gave them an out from the ridiculous contract. The league, Kovy, the devils and the KHL were all complicit in circumvention.

27 years olds who are playing well don't retire. The contract forced him to retire.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 19 @ 12:59 PM ET
It's the same thing Pronger did
- Stripes77

Pronger never came out and said he will not play anymore though. This is some BS.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 19 @ 1:01 PM ET
Hossa retires, I wonder what that means for their cap, and if there are any recapture penalties.

https://www.prosportsdail...ssa-to-retire-513648.html

- Mentalorgasm5

Hossa retires, his clone is getting drafted by Carolina 2nd overall. As one career ends, another begins.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 19 @ 1:02 PM ET
Puts the hawks in a position to trade toews or kane.

Jbotts , pk88 might be available

- Boss34

So we are ok with trading for P. Kane but when I bring up Kessel (more realistic) I get shamed cause he’s half a year older....
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 19 @ 1:05 PM ET
It essentially is, but you know the league has no issue with it. It's far from the first time.
- Lunaion


You can remove the word essentially because it obviously is.

Why bother having rules about this if they are barely, if ever, enforced?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 19 @ 1:07 PM ET
It's the same thing Pronger did
- Stripes77

Kinda like our Bills with Woods.

So Eric, when you talk to the press, don’t mention the word Retire...and really talk up the injury....but only discovered after the season was over...ok?, Got it?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 19 @ 1:11 PM ET
So we are ok with trading for P. Kane but when I bring up Kessel (more realistic) I get shamed cause he’s half a year older....
- Pegullaville



if p kane was from canada this wouldn't even be a thing.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 1:16 PM ET
Pronger never came out and said he will not play anymore though. This is some BS.
- Mentalorgasm5


No idea what he said or didn't say, but he was working in the league office while on LTIR. Everyone knew he wasn't coming back, or making any attempt to. His injury made it more acceptable.

The owners don't care, the players don't care, only fans of opposing teams care...but would gladly take advantage of it for their own team.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 19 @ 1:17 PM ET
if p kane was from canada this wouldn't even be a thing.
- Sabresfan-365

If anything I’d want him more....
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