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DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 23 @ 4:29 PM ET
I get the logistics of cost and who may/may not pay for them as I run an Arena for a living.

When I spoke to the owner/operators at the Langley Event Centre plus the ownership for the Giants (I was there inquiring about work a few years back) they said that attendance was a factor for the move...maybe not the main one but a huge factor. Plus they wanted a more intimate crowd environment which the Langley Centre gives them. Bottom line is that if the Giants drew better crowds (yes there were subpar Hockey years) they would able to cover the expenses of being in a larger facility and then some. But sometimes reality just takes over.

If Utica moved to Surrey it would be cool for a year or two...but when crowds dwindled (and they would) they wouldn't be able to cover even half of their operations costs which are huge in BC.

- LordHumungous


If the Abbotsford Heat couldn't hack it (the Flames affiliate) in a brand spanking new arena, what makes you think the Comets would do any better here? Even now most of our most promising prospects AREN'T going to likely play in Utica for more than a few months unless things go right off the rails this summer for some of them. So would you really pay $20+ to watch players like Reid Boucher, Carter Banks, Megna, Gaunce et. al lumber around the ice?
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 23 @ 4:32 PM ET
He is hung like dad
- VANTEL


My mom went tmi and said the same.....
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Except JB won't trade Gudbranson right after signing him
- NorthNuck

He may...I wouldn’t be surprised if he is traded at the deadline
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
If the Abbotsford Heat couldn't hack it (the Flames affiliate) in a brand spanking new arena, what makes you think the Comets would do any better here? Even now most of our most promising prospects AREN'T going to likely play in Utica for more than a few months unless things go right off the rails this summer for some of them. So would you really pay $20+ to watch players like Reid Boucher, Carter Banks, Megna, Gaunce et. al lumber around the ice?
- DariusKnight


Abbottsford too far . I would pay to see Dahlen MacEwen Sautner Goldobin Palmu Lind . Not Megna Boucher Chaput
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
https://www.tsn.ca/radio/...terson-injuries-1.1093044
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 23 @ 4:34 PM ET
I get the logistics of cost and who may/may not pay for them as I run an Arena for a living.

When I spoke to the owner/operators at the Langley Event Centre plus the ownership for the Giants (I was there inquiring about work a few years back) they said that attendance was a factor for the move...maybe not the main one but a huge factor. Plus they wanted a more intimate crowd environment which the Langley Centre gives them. Bottom line is that if the Giants drew better crowds (yes there were subpar Hockey years) they would able to cover the expenses of being in a larger facility and then some. But sometimes reality just takes over.

If Utica moved to Surrey it would be cool for a year or two...but when crowds dwindled (and they would) they wouldn't be able to cover even half of their operations costs which are huge in BC.

- LordHumungous


Yeah I was in a meeting with the Toigo's around the time the move was announce and they were saying that every EDM show cost them at least $5k in repairs; and as you mentioned didnt like the amount of empty seats

I think the hockey market is a little over-saturated in metro Vancouver that someone would feel the pain if the AHL was also here. There would be the Canucks, "Comets", Giants, 3 BCHL teams, and the PJHL, hockey that covers all price points yet the ripple effect of the new team would likely force more relocations than those leagues already see
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
He may...I wouldn’t be surprised if he is traded at the deadline
- CanuckDon

God I hope he does. The guy is a statistical nightmare
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 23 @ 4:36 PM ET
He may...I wouldn’t be surprised if he is traded at the deadline
- CanuckDon

Or just before his next Mexico trip.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 23 @ 4:54 PM ET
Or just before his next Mexico trip.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Lol good idea. Hopefully Jimmy has a better TDL this season
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 23 @ 4:58 PM ET
Not sure AHL hockey would fly in Van. Giants moved to Langley as they couldn't put 3000 asses in the seats some nights. Van fans are just to fickle with Hockey and money. can't see it working IMO.
- LordHumungous


A lot of it was the operating cost at the Pacific Coliseum
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 23 @ 5:06 PM ET
Yeah I was in a meeting with the Toigo's around the time the move was announce and they were saying that every EDM show cost them at least $5k in repairs; and as you mentioned didnt like the amount of empty seats

I think the hockey market is a little over-saturated in metro Vancouver that someone would feel the pain if the AHL was also here. There would be the Canucks, "Comets", Giants, 3 BCHL teams, and the PJHL, hockey that covers all price points yet the ripple effect of the new team would likely force more relocations than those leagues already see

- WhiteLie


I think the /sports/ market in Metro Vancouver is oversaturated period. Not to mention about a billion other different things you can do instead of go to a sports event.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:12 PM ET
I think the /sports/ market in Metro Vancouver is oversaturated period. Not to mention about a billion other different things you can do instead of go to a sports event.
- DariusKnight


Yeah I wouldnt say the whole sports market is over saturated, but more that it isnt really a sports town in general. If another professional sport came in, I'd give them a moderate chance of success, but as a whole youre right in that there are many other things to do instead (not to mention cost of living reducing disposable income)
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:23 PM ET
side note: the kane deal should provide some perspective for those who think carlson is signing for less than 7M per year
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

May 23 @ 5:26 PM ET
side note: the kane deal should provide some perspective for those who think carlson is signing for less than 7M per year
- Nucker101



He's getting 2x 12m from Vancouver
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:27 PM ET

He's getting 2x 12m from Vancouver

- Pres.cup

the price is now 13m x 2
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 23 @ 5:31 PM ET
the price is now 13m x 2
- Nucker101

I'd do it
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 23 @ 5:35 PM ET
Yeah I wouldnt say the whole sports market is over saturated, but more that it isnt really a sports town in general. If another professional sport came in, I'd give them a moderate chance of success, but as a whole youre right in that there are many other things to do instead (not to mention cost of living reducing disposable income)
- WhiteLie

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 23 @ 5:41 PM ET
I'd do it
- NorthNuck


For Carlson ?

ya'll know he'd get injured halfway through the season and be untradeable.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:42 PM ET
For Carlson ?

ya'll know he'd get injured halfway through the season and be untradeable.

- dbot


26 million for 2 years of Carlson
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 23 @ 5:42 PM ET
26 million for 2 years of Carlson
- Nucker101


Do you even post lineups bro?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:46 PM ET
Do you even post lineups bro?
- dbot

only ones that are at least 3 years into the future
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 23 @ 5:47 PM ET
only ones that are at least 3 years into the future
- Nucker101

Well? Go on then.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 23 @ 5:51 PM ET
only ones that are at least 3 years into the future
- Nucker101


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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 23 @ 5:55 PM ET
Well? Go on then.
- NorthNuck



Tkachuk - Tavares - Boeser
Dahlen - Horvat - Pettersson
Virtanen - Gaudette - Lind
MacEwen/Lockwood - Sutter - Gadjovich

Dobson - Karlsson/OEL
Juolevi - Gudbranson
Saunter - Stetcher

Demko
Dipietro

Tanev + Sven traded to EMD for #10
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 23 @ 5:57 PM ET
Tkachuk - Tavares - Boeser
Dahlen - Horvat - Pettersson
Virtanen - Gaudette - Lind
MacEwen/Lockwood - Sutter - Gadjovich

Dobson - Karlsson/OEL
Juolevi - Gudbranson
Saunter - Stetcher

Demko
Dipietro

Tanev + Sven traded to EMD for #10

- Nucker101

Seems legit. Except you still have Guddy on the team

Where is the #10 pick? I don't see him on the team
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