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Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
I think Grubauer takes #32 +. Feels like he's in very high demand.
- Lunaion



Probably and I would be more worried about getting a LWer for Jack before trading a high pick for a goalie (again)
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 3:53 PM ET
I like to consider them by age as well:

24- O'Regan
23- Oglevie, Malone, Smith
22 (not waiver exempt)- Fasching, Baptiste, Bailey
22 (wavier exempt)- Pilut, Olofsson
21- Borgen
20- Asplund, Nylander, Guhle
19- Pu

Some of these guys are already old enough that the prospect label no longer applies, and you're hoping for late bloomers or just depth guys.

- Lunaion



I heard some NHL radio guys say they think he's ready for 4th line duty now fwiw
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 3:59 PM ET
Probably and I would be more worried about getting a LWer for Jack before trading a high pick for a goalie (again)
- Stripes77


I'm fine if they do it, but it would surprise me. #32 is one of the most valuable trade assets the team has, which is kind of sad, but they need to use it wisely.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:03 PM ET
I heard some NHL radio guys say they think he's ready for 4th line duty now fwiw
- jcragcrumple


Should be a lot of competition for those last few spots this year. It'll fun to watch. Not hard to see him winning it.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 4:16 PM ET
Probably and I would be more worried about getting a LWer for Jack before trading a high pick for a goalie (again)
- Stripes77


Was just going to say isn't this a Lehner-type deal again?
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
Was just going to say isn't this a Lehner-type deal again?
- RhinoFan



Pretty much.

I know it’s a double edged sword. You want a good goalie. You need a good goalie especially in the playoffs but this team needs more than just a goalie.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 23 @ 4:20 PM ET
Do not trade a 2nd round pick for Grubauer that’s basically a first round pick ( I’m not joking)

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Rather Sign Hutton for free
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 4:24 PM ET
Rather Sign Hutton for free
- gerbe75pts



Bernier 3 year, 3.3 per. Perfect 1b for Ullmark imo
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 23 @ 4:25 PM ET
Bernier 3 year, 3.3 per. Perfect 1b for Ullmark imo
- jcragcrumple
can we do 2
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
Bernier 3 year, 3.3 per. Perfect 1b for Ullmark imo
- jcragcrumple



Fairly certain Ullmark will be the 1B next year
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 23 @ 4:27 PM ET
I'm fine if they do it, but it would surprise me. #32 is one of the most valuable trade assets the team has, which is kind of sad, but they need to use it wisely.
- Lunaion



Is #32 more valuable then

Bailey
Baptiste
Asplund
Davidson
Nylander
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:28 PM ET
Was just going to say isn't this a Lehner-type deal again?
- RhinoFan


Similar for sure, but Grubauer was been a lot better than Lehner (pre-trade). Every time I look at Lehner's Ottawa numbers, I get angry.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 4:28 PM ET
Is #32 more valuable then

Bailey
Baptiste
Asplund
Davidson
Nylander

- Boss34



probably on par or just less than Nylander
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:29 PM ET
Is #32 more valuable then

Bailey
Baptiste
Asplund
Davidson
Nylander

- Boss34


Bailey-yes
Baptiste- yes
Asplund- close, but no
Davidson- yes
Nylander- i hate answering this
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 4:33 PM ET
Is #32 more valuable then

Bailey
Baptiste
Asplund
Davidson
Nylander

- Boss34


1st OA
ROR
Risto
Reinhart
Next year's first
#32
2019 SJS first
Nylander
Asplund
Bailey
Baptiste
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 4:35 PM ET
1st OA
ROR
Risto
Reinhart
Next year's first
#32
2019 SJS first
Nylander
Asplund
Bailey
Baptiste

- jcragcrumple


Id swap risto and ror simply cause of contract. otherwise probably accurate
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 4:39 PM ET
Id swap risto and ror simply cause of contract. otherwise probably accurate
- Sabresfan-365


Yeah probably right. Also it only takes one GM who thinks Nylander is awesome to flip any value chart on its head
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
1st OA
ROR
Risto
Reinhart
Next year's first
#32
2019 SJS first
Nylander
Asplund
Bailey
Baptiste

- jcragcrumple


Jack ?
Ahead of 1oa or behind dahlin?

Risto and ror flip flop maybe
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 23 @ 4:40 PM ET
Yeah probably right. But it only takes one GM who thinks Nylander is awesome to flip any value chart on its head
- jcragcrumple



something something logical fallacy


you're right though, especially having just started his ELC, there will be interest.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 4:41 PM ET
Pretty much.

I know it’s a double edged sword. You want a good goalie. You need a good goalie especially in the playoffs but this team needs more than just a goalie.

- Stripes77


Yeah I think Grubauer (sp?) is good enough, but he isn't anything special. Another average starter that has some potential to be better. As you said, he's just another goaltender.

I think we're going to see what Ullmark has as far as a starter. I'm not sold personally. As a goalie, his wild style is terrifying. Dom was terrifying too though, so we shall see.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 4:41 PM ET
Pretty much.

I know it’s a double edged sword. You want a good goalie. You need a good goalie especially in the playoffs but this team needs more than just a goalie.

- Stripes77



You really don't. A hot average goalie is going to beat a good goalie playing normally.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:41 PM ET
1st OA
ROR
Risto
Reinhart
Next year's first
#32
2019 SJS first
Nylander
Asplund
Bailey
Baptiste

- jcragcrumple


#1
Eichel
Mittlestadt
Risto
RoR
Sam
Guhle
Asplund
Nylander
Scandella
#32
Davidson
Ullmark
McCabe
Nelson
Borgen
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 4:42 PM ET
Jack ?
Ahead of 1oa or behind dahlin?


Risto and ror flip flop maybe

- Boss34


I'll be honest, I couldn't decide so I put him in the mental category of untouchable
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 23 @ 4:43 PM ET
Similar for sure, but Grubauer was been a lot better than Lehner (pre-trade). Every time I look at Lehner's Ottawa numbers, I get angry.
- Lunaion


Beware the backup goalie with sparkling numbers especially if he plays for a good team. Ask Calgary, Edmonton and Carolina how they feel about it.
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