We sign JT for 12m the cap goes up it’s a win - win

We win one cup I don't give 2 poops about being in cap hell

Backreading paid off, because I got to see another fan of Dellandrea. I'd love him at 32. Really like what I've read on Bokk too.
- PrinceChill

Most mock drafts have Dellandrea between 21-27, I think we need to move up if we want him.

Looking at previous drafts though the amount of top line wingers past the first round are few and far between. Maybe a couple come out of that round, but wouldn't a 2nd or 3rd line winger be about as good as you can hope for on average?

I'm just thinking that with Nylander, Pu, Baptiste, Bailey and Malone we have some bottom 6 depth on the way at least. If that is the case, then I'd rather shoot for a defender who can be a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy for us in a few years when the cap situation gets tight. If there is a top line talent available (Jack's winger) then I'm completely wrong, but figured that wasn't feasible in the 2nd round.
- RhinoFan

I agree.
at 32, take a bit of a gamble on a D-man...if you hit...that is one valuable asset to have...or at least makes an existing asset expedable to help improve the team.

Forwards are much easier to acquire than quality Dmen. especially if you have "aces" at the C position who make their linemates better.

Most mock drafts have Dellandrea between 21-27, I think we need to move up if we want him.
- sskkoo1

We need to get up in the top 3

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get

We need to get up in the top 3

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get
- gerbe75pts

Do you have a minute? I'm interested to hear your entire master plan. Trades, salaries and the 2018-19 roster.

What are we looking at?

Looking at previous drafts though the amount of top line wingers past the first round are few and far between. Maybe a couple come out of that round, but wouldn't a 2nd or 3rd line winger be about as good as you can hope for on average?

I'm just thinking that with Nylander, Pu, Baptiste, Bailey and Malone we have some bottom 6 depth on the way at least. If that is the case, then I'd rather shoot for a defender who can be a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy for us in a few years when the cap situation gets tight. If there is a top line talent available (Jack's winger) then I'm completely wrong, but figured that wasn't feasible in the 2nd round.
- RhinoFan

It's been widely speculated that this is a very deep draft reminiscent of 2015, where you can find top 6/4 talent into the 3rd round. Of course, you need to bring your scouting A game, but there is a lot of talent here with hiccups like desire, speed, size, physicality, 200' game.. most of the 2nd rounders have are above average to great skaters, they just need more development time. There's no reason we can't find a top 6 talent at 32. We just have to be patient.

We need to get up in the top 3

Not gonna happen

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get
- gerbe75pts

And not gonna happen. Also would need two 2nds to trade two 2nds.

It's been widely speculated that this is a very deep draft reminiscent of 2015, where you can find top 6/4 talent into the 3rd round. Of course, you need to bring your scouting A game, but there is a lot of talent here with hiccups like desire, speed, size, physicality, 200' game.. most of the 2nd rounders have are above average to great skaters, they just need more development time. There's no reason we can't find a top 6 talent at 32. We just have to be patient.
- TheSabresTaco

Problem there is we don't own a 3rd rounder, unless you count the first pick in the 4th round as a 3rd rounder that is

I agree.
at 32, take a bit of a gamble on a D-man...if you hit...that is one valuable asset to have...or at least makes an existing asset expedable to help improve the team.

Forwards are much easier to acquire than quality Dmen. especially if you have "aces" at the C position who make their linemates better.
- IonSabres

Exactly. I think we can build off a strong center position if we have puck movers and strong defenders backing them up. If we do have those aces, we don't necessarily need to invest heavily in those linemates up front. Not saying it isn't a position of need, but I agree.

And not gonna happen. Also would need two 2nds to trade two 2nds.
- SDSabre

Will most likely get a 2nd for some one

Most mock drafts have Dellandrea between 21-27, I think we need to move up if we want him.
- sskkoo1

The mocks I've looked at recently didn't have Della in the 1st, but the NHL draft is pretty unpredictable so it's anyone's guess who falls past 31. To be honest, I just did a little bit of research with the intention of finding a player or two or three to root for falling to 32.

Book is almost certainly a pipe dream at 32.

Biron said on the radio last week that the only reason afinogenov stayed a Sabre was because tom golisano loved him.

Owners have opinions on players
- jcragcrumple

This is how Ehrhoff was brought in. Owners have a say, to varying degrees. They own the team. But they don't build the team. I would say the farthest they go is speaking with their GM about a player they like, like you or I or anyone would, and the GM would give his thoughts and pursue the player if it made sense. Ultimately, it's always on the GM on who he brings to the team. He's the one who decides who fits what role on a team. I'm sure there are very few scenarios of modern sports where an owner says you must sign player x and the GM/coach disagree.

It's been widely speculated that this is a very deep draft reminiscent of 2015, where you can find top 6/4 talent into the 3rd round. Of course, you need to bring your scouting A game, but there is a lot of talent here with hiccups like desire, speed, size, physicality, 200' game.. most of the 2nd rounders have are above average to great skaters, they just need more development time. There's no reason we can't find a top 6 talent at 32. We just have to be patient.
- TheSabresTaco

I've heard that the depth is good as well, so perhaps I should reevaluate that. Not sure.

I would love to draft Dahlin and Jack's future winger...but Asplund (to me) is kind of the prototypical decent 2nd rounder. Nothing dazzling but a good addition.

If there's a chance that a player of such caliber IS available there, different story. Just was thinking about the Brendan Lemieux's of the world and how they aren't what the doctor ordered for Jackie Boy. If it's a crap shoot, I'd still lean defense. Higher value, still a position of need and there seem to be a few promising ones that will be there.

We sign JT for 12m the cap goes up it’s a win - win

We win one cup I don't give 2 poops about being in cap hell
- gerbe75pts

Why do you always wear blinders

We need to get up in the top 3

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get
- gerbe75pts

Why do we "need" to do that?

Problem there is we don't own a 3rd rounder, unless you count the first pick in the 4th round as a 3rd rounder that is
- SDSabre

We only have 1st round picks, bumhole. Seven of them.

I've heard that the depth is good as well, so perhaps I should reevaluate that. Not sure.

I would love to draft Dahlin and Jack's future winger...but Asplund (to me) is kind of the prototypical decent 2nd rounder. Nothing dazzling but a good addition.

If there's a chance that a player of such caliber IS available there, different story. Just was thinking about the Brendan Lemieux's of the world and how they aren't what the doctor ordered for Jackie Boy. If it's a crap shoot, I'd still lean defense. Higher value, still a position of need and there seem to be a few promising ones that will be there.
- RhinoFan

Lemieux is the prototypical player in Murrayland and 2011 LA Kings. He's a mid 3rd rounder today. Based on 2014 projections.

We need to get up in the top 3

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get
- gerbe75pts

Wait you want to trade for pick 2 or 3, which would cost a fortune, and then trade that pick (Svech of Zedina) for a pick in the twenties and a few second rounders?

I’d just be worried that a team like ARZ or EDM or VAN, etc would claim them

We claimed Nolan last year
So it does happen

I’d either keep them here or try to trade them in a package
I wouldn’t mind seeing a 3rd line of
Bailey-Mittelstadt-Baptiste
- jdfitz77

Nolan was waived early in camp, much different situation.

Remember, if that's your third line, RoR has 90% dzone starts.

Do you have a minute? I'm interested to hear your entire master plan. Trades, salaries and the 2018-19 roster.

What are we looking at?
- jcragcrumple

Sure ..

ROR , Justin B , Kyle to Montreal

To buffalo : Alex G , 3rd Ov , weber

To Arizona : Sam , Gus

To buffalo : max , Perlin

To wings : Jake m

To buffalo :Athanasiou

Trade Zach ,2nd (2020) to Vegas

Buffalo gets a 7th

Sign JT 12 m a year


Z- Jack - max

Perlin- JT - Athanasiou

Alex G - Casey - nylander

Pominville - Rodrigues- Wilson


dahlin - weber

Guhle - risto

Scandella- Nelson


0% chance but hey

We need to get up in the top 3

Then move back to 20 with the two 2nds will get
- gerbe75pts

Won’t it be fun to listen to you female dog and moan come draft day when none of this happens. Even after we pick the best player in the draft.

Sure ..

ROR , Justin B , Kyle to Montreal

To buffalo : Alex G , 3rd Ov , weber

To Arizona : Sam , Gus

To buffalo : max , Perlin

To wings : Jake m

To buffalo :Athanasiou

Trade Zach ,2nd (2020) to Vegas

Buffalo gets a 7th

Sign JT 12 m a year


Z- Jack - max

Perlin- JT - Athanasiou

Alex G - Casey - nylander

Pominville - Rodrigues- Wilson


dahlin - weber

Guhle - risto

Scandella- Nelson


0% chance but hey
- gerbe75pts

0% ANY of this happens....

Sure ..

ROR , Justin B , Kyle to Montreal

To buffalo : Alex G , 3rd Ov , weber

To Arizona : Sam , Gus

To buffalo : max , Perlin

To wings : Jake m

To buffalo :Athanasiou

Trade Zach ,2nd (2020) to Vegas

Buffalo gets a 7th

Sign JT 12 m a year


Z- Jack - max

Perlin- JT - Athanasiou

Alex G - Casey - nylander

Pominville - Rodrigues- Wilson


dahlin - weber

Guhle - risto

Scandella- Nelson


0% chance but hey
- gerbe75pts

Cool.

That's the part that I think is totally unlikely. Makes no sense from a MTL perspective. They're losing their best D man and not replacing it with anything, and giving up their 3rd overall pick?

I don't see how that suits them

Wait you want to trade for pick 2 or 3, which would cost a fortune, and then trade that pick (Svech of Zedina) for a pick in the twenties and a few second rounders?

- sskkoo1

The 2nd we have in the second round I’m Assuming will get another second round pick and we can use those two to move up to the 20s

0% ANY of this happens....
- gordong

Most likely lol

Maybe 1 ha