Vegas wanted speed and skill, don’t think they’d have much interest in Gaunce who’s an average skater(decent for his weight though) and sucks offensively.

The prospect would have had to been at least semi-decent or a pick instead.

At what point does Gillis stop becoming an excuse? Edler is literally the only Gillis contract left on the team now. And outside of Boeser, the best players on this team are still non-Benning players. Horvat, Edler and Tanev.

Did Gillis tell the team to do the stupid age gap strategy that failed? Did he tell Benning to sign Eriksson and cater to the Sedins?

By that logic, every GM who’s ever taken over a team left behind by a bad/mediocre GM has never had success.

It’s okay to admit that your favourite team (frank)ed up and still be a fan, let’s just hope they’ve learned from it and be glad that the drafting seems to have improved.
- Nucker101

We've been there for a year or two now. Benning is putting his mark on the team but it will take time (longer for some lol)

I will give credit where it's due. Gillis did some damn great things here. Hamhuis, Ehrhoff, Torres, Lapierre, Samuelson, Malholtra, Higgins and a few others were all Gillis. And without those guys we don't see no cup final. But Gillis was just doing what was popular at the time locking up all this players to try to get back to the final. Much like the Flames did in 2005.

I've been hard in Gillis here too but he did do some good things. But after 2012 it was apparent that rentals and such were not going to work. So all these NTC's started to bite him in the ass. It is what it is. many GM's have done it. Maybe Gillis should have had the foresight to tear the team down after 2012 but it didn't happen.

In 2-3 years Benning will most likely be gone. Not everything he has done obviously is GM genius but I've said it before. Once the new core are established I think some around here are going to owe Benning a bit of an apology. No he's not the greatest at trades and such...but we have our highest prospect rating in recent history and we will be seeing the benefits of that sooner or later.

We've been there for a year or two now. Benning is putting his mark on the team but it will take time (longer for some lol)

I will give credit where it's due. Gillis did some damn great things here. Hamhuis, Ehrhoff, Torres, Lapierre, Samuelson, Malholtra, Higgins and a few others were all Gillis. And without those guys we don't see no cup final. But Gillis was just doing what was popular at the time locking up all this players to try to get back to the final. Much like the Flames did in 2005.

I've been hard in Gillis here too but he did do some good things. But after 2012 it was apparent that rentals and such were not going to work. So all these NTC's started to bite him in the ass. It is what it is. many GM's have done it. Maybe Gillis should have had the foresight to tear the team down after 2012 but it didn't happen.

In 2-3 years Benning will most likely be gone. Not everything he has done obviously is GM genius but I've said it before. Once the new core are established I think some around here are going to owe Benning a bit of an apology. No he's not the greatest at trades and such...but we have our highest prospect rating in recent history and we will be seeing the benefits of that sooner or later.
- LordHumungous

Yeah Gillis picked Shinkaruk over Theodore.
Jensen over Rakell
Schroeder over Johansson

Yeah but he has like 3 concussions already.
- classic321

ya thats a BIG concern

we already have LE who is likely suffering from complications of many concussions
likely best for his ongoing health if he retires and not risk further damage. He's 32 and had a decent career with lots of $ and will be compensated into retirement

Just my opinion but you can’t count players that you think will be NHL player, to date Benning has two guys who’ve played a full year with that club that are still with the club.
- LeftCoaster

This goes both ways Lefty and there's been no shortage of things being scored up as fail that are yet to be determined.

For that alone he should forever be called an idiot, right Lefty...Lefty
- Makita

.@coreypronman on Dobson: I think he's a very good player, but where the Canucks pick...I'm not sure he has the offensive skillset to justify that. He has size, moves the puck well, can play both ends, but in regards to the game-breaking ability..I just don't think he's there



- LeftCoaster

Pronmans negativity guarantees Dobson is a 1 D. Best endorsement yet 👍🏻

This is the same guy who has Merkley ranked ahead of Dobson
- Nucker101

Yup lol - guy is a joke

There is quite a few players around there that look like they might have pretty decent NHL careers.




Coburn, Johnson for Tanev? Solves the top 6C problem. Then could trade a LHD or 2. Just keep Coburn around as 7th D.
- manvanfan

Yup always Vantel making trades

Boqvist has a game changing shot
- VANTEL

He will be using his shot in his parents garAge when he busts out of hockey in 5 years

Yup always Vantel making trades
- VANTEL

At least you're not posting rosters.
Amirightguys??....the worst!

Pronmans negativity guarantees Dobson is a 1 D. Best endorsement yet 👍🏻
- CanuckDon

The same guy who doesn't like Elias Petterson.

Yeah Gillis picked Shinkaruk over Theodore.
Jensen over Rakell
Schroeder over Johansson
- manvanfan

Hodgson over Myers, Karlsson, Carlson

10 years today. I'm gonna play in the big leagues

You want the team to not over achieve.. it's not. It hasnt. Things are moving slow I agree. Should be grabbing more picks but a lot of this complaining about us not being better sure goes against many other arguments you put up. If those moves by Benning are being measured by success... but future success is being measured by finishing low now... then there is a lot of tail chasing going on in the argument.

Only the day dreamers thought this team wasn't going to tread water and hope to draft well during the remaining time the Sedins had left. JB/FA took a shot right away but seem to have accepted the decline in the following seasons. Luckily, we drafted well during this time for the most part. Even with Benning not bringing profit making success(playoffs and excitement) to the owner... FA stuck with him. Trying to win has not been the priority or sucking would have had Benning fired. Drafting has really been his only strength and here he is... resigned. Maybe people have been looking at what's happening from a narrow perspective. This team needed bodies that they couldnt find from within for medium/short term. It doesn't mean they were shooting for immediate success. The moves would have been much bigger rather than hole filling for the most part.

It seems the legit debate has more to do with how many picks Benning goes to the draft with. Agreed wholly. Should have been doing more of this the last couple of seasons. Way too timid when it comes to creating a hole in the lineup to acquire picks. Just fill those holes short term and get some fkn picks already. At least start the post Sedin era off the right way with a tide of youth added to the system. I think after this draft the foundation can mostly be laid and not far from carrying if they just do a repeat of 2017 with the high ratio of prospects shining in their draft +1 boosting odds of being impact players. I also like JB's ability of finding good prospects later in the 1st round down the road when the team has a bubble season or even makes the playoffs.

Hopefully, we see some picks before the draft. The narrative that he didnt does not seem to want to wait though. So many arguments based on what people think is going to happen to the point it's accepted as fact. Always a peev with me....
- boonerbuck

absolutely true
Its something I noticed as well. People making consensus on picks then freaking out when JB picks someone else and call him stupid cause his view was different than posters on HB. Ridiculous

remember people blowing their tops when he didnt take glass? Now there's not a poster here that would take glass over pettersson

10 years today. I'm gonna play in the big leagues
- VANTEL

That was an awful day. His poor family.

Interesting, never have considered that...a BloatedREDMosquito and a CanuckREDDon
- Makita

.@coreypronman on Dobson: I think he's a very good player, but where the Canucks pick...I'm not sure he has the offensive skillset to justify that. He has size, moves the puck well, can play both ends, but in regards to the game-breaking ability..I just don't think he's there



- LeftCoaster

We need 25 minute a night defensemen and thats what he will be. Is there anyone here who wouldnt want seth jones or alex petriangelo? The guy is a lock to be an all purpose dman. The others all have question marks.

That was an awful day. His poor family.
- Marwood

Yes horrible day

Yeah Gillis picked Shinkaruk over Theodore.
Jensen over Rakell
Schroeder over Johansson
- manvanfan

You cant fault him shink he was thought of as a steal at the time. I blame him for not getting Theodore in the Kesler trade because he wanted his age gap bullpoop filled with sutter types instead of players for the future.

Pronmans negativity guarantees Dobson is a 1 D. Best endorsement yet 👍🏻
- CanuckDon

His list this year was horrible.

Gudbranson!

for Yanni Gourde
- dbot

You should probably get close to Yann Sauve

We've been there for a year or two now. Benning is putting his mark on the team but it will take time (longer for some lol)

I will give credit where it's due. Gillis did some damn great things here. Hamhuis, Ehrhoff, Torres, Lapierre, Samuelson, Malholtra, Higgins and a few others were all Gillis. And without those guys we don't see no cup final. But Gillis was just doing what was popular at the time locking up all this players to try to get back to the final. Much like the Flames did in 2005.

I've been hard in Gillis here too but he did do some good things. But after 2012 it was apparent that rentals and such were not going to work. So all these NTC's started to bite him in the ass. It is what it is. many GM's have done it. Maybe Gillis should have had the foresight to tear the team down after 2012 but it didn't happen.

In 2-3 years Benning will most likely be gone. Not everything he has done obviously is GM genius but I've said it before. Once the new core are established I think some around here are going to owe Benning a bit of an apology. No he's not the greatest at trades and such...but we have our highest prospect rating in recent history and we will be seeing the benefits of that sooner or later.
- LordHumungous

After the flames run it was disgusting some of the moves that were made to “try” and repeat 04 ....not saying I was in total disagreement at the time ...but now ...yikes lol

You should probably get close to Yann Sauve
- Redmile247

Still not as bad as 2 firsts and a second for Hamonic

Still not as bad as 2 firsts and a second for Hamonic
- VANTEL

Pronmans negativity guarantees Dobson is a 1 D. Best endorsement yet 👍🏻
- CanuckDon