It's completely possible. I think it's pretty ignorant to suggest a guy drafted top10 has reached his potential at 21. We all know D take longer, yet the sky is falling trading for a 21 year old that hasn't lived up to the hype yet. The price has to right, but I would be inquiring for sure.

Here's a list of guys I think worked well for Van:
Trades:
Sbisa
Granlund
Sutter
Baerschi

UFA's
MDZ

I'm just saying the rate of success with the pro's is not much better or worse than those drafted. More than half the guys JB has drafted will not be regulars, best to deal with that reality now.
- neem55

D do take longer. The best D when they arrive at whatever age. They arrive in a noticeable way. Hanifin hasnt shown enough after 3 full seasons that people are saying that he is going to be a first pairing D.

Boquist at 18 has very similar numbers to Karlsson and already possesses an NHL shot/IQ. Dobson has a higher ceiling right now, as many 18 year olds do: because at that age they all have more potential than actual ability. it's the catch-22 of the draft everyone is good because no one hasn't panned out yet.
- neem55

This boqvist Karlsson comparison needs to stop. They both had poor numbers. So Boq will also exceed expectations and be similar to Karlsson? It literally makes zero sense. Why not pick somebody with better numbers than Karlsson? There are plenty D with better numbers this draft. Why do you keep comparing these two players? I know you will say scouts know more than me and they told you so. Anyways, hope everyone is having a great night!

I agree
- Pres.cup

Always knew you had faith In JV.

This boqvist Karlsson comparison needs to stop. They both had poor numbers. So Boq will also exceed expectations and be similar to Karlsson? It literally makes zero sense. Why not pick somebody with better numbers than Karlsson? There are plenty D with better numbers this draft. Why do you keep comparing these two players? I know you will say scouts know more than me and they told you so. Anyways, hope everyone is having a great night!
- CanuckDon

we were until you showed up and threw a latte on it

we were until you showed up and threw a latte on it
- 1970vintage

😳😳😳I was having drinks on lefty’s favorite
Course all day. I need to limit my lattes to avoid a lengthy ban

But he's going to cost more than just the #7 pick. Are you willing to pay 2 for 1?
- 1970vintage

Honestly I am on the fence about #7 for Hanifin to begin with. I would trade pretty much any other asset for him, including Dahlen who will be a very very good player. In a perfect world Dahlen + very small add for NH and we draft a right with #7.

Gudbranson. 😂

Win some, lose some.

Please lord let Guddy have a good season. 🙈
- manvanfan

I dont care what type of season he has I just want him dealt.

Nice. It is convenient to leave out the players that have worked well. Sutter has been as advertised and was far and away our best d-forward. The story that somehow our management is only able to draft players is a funny one, when the team is losing apparently the drafting is the only thing that can't be blamed. we don't have a goalie. We have two, maybe three NHL dmen and 6-8 forwards of that calibre. It's not the pro scouts fault
- neem55

sutter is not good he is a 4th line center

Honestly I am on the fence about #7 for Hanifin to begin with. I would trade pretty much any other asset for him, including Dahlen who will be a very very good player. In a perfect world Dahlen + very small add for NH and we draft a right with #7.
- Retinalz

Yes this exactly what I hope happens. Get Hanifin without the 7th and then draft Dobson at 7th. Then we would just need to add one more top 4 defensemen.

Hanifin - Dobson
OJ -
Tryamkin - Stetcher

Hopefully we can add a few more picks and walk away with another defense prospect or two.. Hoping for Woo, Addison, Miller or Merkley

I have no idea what this means
- CanuckDon

I basically meant that we need to add multiple top 4 defensemen.

Adding hanifin for the 7th is like trading a future dman for another. I would like to add him for a different piece.

This time tomorrow, Satriani

I have no idea what this means
- CanuckDon

(3-1=2)>(3-1=2)

I think that about sums it up.
I think we now know who bro Jake is.

D do take longer. The best D when they arrive at whatever age. They arrive in a noticeable way. Hanifin hasnt shown enough after 3 full seasons that people are saying that he is going to be a first pairing D.
- manvanfan

I think he's as likely to be a top pairing player as any of the top d in this draft outside of dahlin.
I think he's got a lessor chance of busting then any of the d in this draft

This boqvist Karlsson comparison needs to stop. They both had poor numbers. So Boq will also exceed expectations and be similar to Karlsson? It literally makes zero sense. Why not pick somebody with better numbers than Karlsson? There are plenty D with better numbers this draft. Why do you keep comparing these two players? I know you will say scouts know more than me and they told you so. Anyways, hope everyone is having a great night!
- CanuckDon

And now we all know who Don Taylor is.

This is funs.

Always knew you had faith In JV.
- manvanfan

I kinda took you for a Hanifin fan

This boqvist Karlsson comparison needs to stop. They both had poor numbers. So Boq will also exceed expectations and be similar to Karlsson? It literally makes zero sense. Why not pick somebody with better numbers than Karlsson? There are plenty D with better numbers this draft. Why do you keep comparing these two players? I know you will say scouts know more than me and they told you so. Anyways, hope everyone is having a great night!
- CanuckDon

Shot 69 today with a double, won $75 dollars, today was a good day.

Shot 69 today with a double, won $75 dollars, today was a good day.
- LeftCoaster

Played 1/3 NL at the Grand Villa today, won over $1500, remember... Poker IS a sport.

Now you know who Dave Pratt is on here...

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I'm not really him.

Played 1/3 NL at the Grand Villa today, won over $1500, remember... Poker IS a sport.

Now you know who Dave Pratt is on here...

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I'm not really him.
- DariusKnight

No leather pant suits?

sutter is not good he is a 4th line center
- mauryballstein

Alright well his numbers contradict what you are saying, so I'll go with evidence over opinion.

I think he's as likely to be a top pairing player as any of the top d in this draft outside of dahlin.
I think he's got a lessor chance of busting then any of the d in this draft
- Pres.cup

This is the only reason to go with Hanafin, and it's a matter of opinion/where people see his progression whether this is the case. I think he's showing an upward trend, lots of growing to do, and I agree it's much more likely at this point that he continues to be a mainstay and could easily already be top4.

I basically meant that we need to add multiple top 4 defensemen.

Adding hanifin for the 7th is like trading a future dman for another. I would like to add him for a different piece.
- mauryballstein

Ohhh ok gotcha. For me it depends on who has been drafted

And now we all know who Don Taylor is.

This is funs.
- Pres.cup

Don Taylor is a visionary

Honestly I am on the fence about #7 for Hanifin to begin with. I would trade pretty much any other asset for him, including Dahlen who will be a very very good player. In a perfect world Dahlen + very small add for NH and we draft a right with #7.
- Retinalz

It's an interesting take, Dahlen or 7 as having more value. If the player ends up being Wahlstrom you could be right but Dahlen might have more value at this point... it's close.

Shot 69 today with a double, won $75 dollars, today was a good day.
- LeftCoaster

I shot a 92 on Monument...my longest drive was 250 and my longest 5 iron was 230. I usually drive well over 300...worst driving of my life. Damn snap hook is back Beautiful course though 😍😍

Edit - 69 😳🎉

No leather pant suits?
- Pres.cup

I like my balls to hang out, not get chapped by hot leather on a sunny day.