Compher was the other piece that sealed the deal, if they didn't have him I doubt the deal gets done.
- GilPerreault11

Nah, ask 89. They wanted Justin Bailey but settled for Compher

This is silly to argue about, but he was still considered a high upside prospect when we moved him which is exactly what Zadorov was.

I would agree that Zadorov was probably the main peice, but it went Grigo, the 31st and Compher as far as importance in that deal.
- sbroads24

He was not the same area code as Zadorov

Nah, ask 89. They wanted Justin Bailey but settled for Compher
- sbroads24

Whatever, he was the next piece of value. They didn't have to haggle over getting Grigorenko

He was not the same area code as Zadorov
- GilPerreault11

Alrighty

Nah, ask 89. They wanted Justin Bailey but settled for Compher
- sbroads24

And that’s why he was the worst GM in history Smh

Whatever, he was the next piece of value. They didn't have to haggle over getting Grigorenko
- GilPerreault11

Even so, a guy drafted in the mid-first as opposed to later rounds will have more trade value, even if they are underwhelming.

Lawson Crouse was traded after doing zilch

- Der Kaiser

Yeah...
i was lost with him saying Girgs has value as well

I don’t agree with this at all you should look up what line he’s played on and the minutes


His speed is not even remotely close to sam
- gerbe75pts

As he is certainly faster, I compared them because of their draft position, offensive potential, dual position flexibility and the lack of ability to efficiently play the C position.

As he is certainly faster, I compared them because of their draft position, offensive potential, dual position flexibility and the lack of ability to efficiently play the C position.
- TheSabresTaco

But how do their 5v5 beatboxing skillz compare?

As he is certainly faster, I compared them because of their draft position, offensive potential, dual position flexibility and the lack of ability to efficiently play the C position.
- TheSabresTaco

Ok your correct on that ..

lots of people thought he be a really good 2 way player but center really has not worked out

Even so, a guy drafted in the mid-first as opposed to later rounds will have more trade value, even if they are underwhelming.

Lawson Crouse was traded after doing zilch
- sbroads24

I still to this day am confused as to how he was highly touted.

But how do their 5v5 beatboxing skillz compare?
- jochfr

Not really a fair comparison, as Reinhart is the beatboxer and Galchenyuk is the spitter

Imagine if We had Compher instead of Justin Bailey ugh makes me sick

http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/who-to-target-who-to-avoid-at-the-trade-deadline

The other two though… not so much. Mikhail Grigorenko was the prize of the Ryan O’Reilly trade and he hasn’t worked out either. Imagine being 6.5 shot attempts worse on a team as bad as the Avs because that’s what Grigorenko is working with. But even he isn’t as bad as Curtis Lazar, who somehow has hype behind him. Somehow. He’s got one point in 32 games this season and is one of the league’s worst possession players at minus-24 net shots per 60. Blame his linemates if you want, because Chris Kelly and Chris Neil are terrible, but even they’re doing better than him. Young reclamation projects are nice gambles on most deadlines, but this time around it’s hard to see as much upside given how these three have played.

Again, not defending him as a hockey player, but this wasn't the narrative at first
- sbroads24

Its the hockey news, they legit are the dumbest hockey publication existing.

Not really a fair comparison, as Reinhart is the beatboxer and Galchenyuk is the spitter
- TheSabresTaco

They both like to party

This is silly to argue about, but he was still considered a high upside prospect when we moved him which is exactly what Zadorov was.

I would agree that Zadorov was probably the main peice, but it went Grigo, the 31st and Compher as far as importance in that deal.
- sbroads24

I would have to say that is incorrect, sorry my man, but the Avs insiders heard a much different story.

Grigo was in fact a throw in, a gift to patty Roy. Avs beat writers have gone on record saying that was the case when they acquired him based on their sources

I still to this day am confused as to how he was highly touted.
- TheSabresTaco

No idea

Its the hockey news, they legit are the dumbest hockey publication existing.
- DDM-Coga

As an AVs fan,
what was your opinion of Grigorenko when he was traded to u guys?

From my point of view,
Zadorov was the major piece u guys were getting

No idea
- sbroads24

U going to explain your “Girgs has value” comment?

I would have to say that is incorrect, sorry my man, but the Avs insiders heard a much different story.

Grigo was in fact a throw in, a gift to patty Roy. Avs beat writers have gone on record saying that was the case when they acquired him based on their sources
- DDM-Coga

Yeah, and I would say it's easy to say that now, and there is no report of that then.

And if he was a throw-in, It doesn't really make much of a difference

As an AVs fan,
what was your opinion of Grigorenko when he was traded to u guys?

From my point of view,
Zadorov was the major piece u guys were getting
- jdfitz77

that Roy got his pet to try to prove people wrong. IT was already rumoured to how bad the tension bw Sakic and Roy were with the direction of the team to that point.

Grigs was really just that, a throw in to make Roy Happy

Yeah, and I would say it's easy to say that now, and there is no report of that then.

And if he was a throw-in, It doesn't really make much of a difference
- sbroads24

it was reported then, just bc Avs beat writers dont get much national attention, stuff like this just gets cherry picked by TSN and Hockey News guys.

The Denver post is trash so when a piece is picked up its usually from those guys and its always so embarrassing

I would have to say that is incorrect, sorry my man, but the Avs insiders heard a much different story.

Grigo was in fact a throw in, a gift to patty Roy. Avs beat writers have gone on record saying that was the case when they acquired him based on their sources
- DDM-Coga

I think a “throw in” might be too harsh though
I’m guessing they thought he might reclaim his potential if he was coached by Roy again

I agree generally though
Definitely wasn’t on the same level as Zadorov at the time

U going to explain your “Girgs has value” comment?
- jdfitz77

Girgensons with a 1st round pedigree >> Scott Wilson in terms of trade value.

There is always a GM or coach who liked a guy his draft year.

We saw Murray with Kulikov, Bogo etc

that Roy got his pet to try to prove people wrong. IT was already rumoured to how bad the tension bw Sakic and Roy were with the direction of the team to that point.

Grigs was really just that, a throw in to make Roy Happy
- DDM-Coga

Ok, didn’t realize it was to that extent
Good info
Thanks