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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:06 PM ET

- VANTEL

Pettersson is one player I'd personally bank on becoming a good NHL player. Insert Captain Obvious here!

In three years I expect the Canucks to be a better team but I'm not about to throw them (kids) out there in every situation or even pencil most kids outside of Pettersson in the lineup right now. So I agree with insulating them, which means I agree with you, however, I don't think you need to insulate them with great players, just players.

Sutter won't be on the team in three years and hopefully some youth finds its way to becoming great players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:11 PM ET
Things I can promise will and won't happen this year

Top 6 prospect and 165 lb beanpole Pettersson will not be playing shut down against other teams top line with Brandon Sutter


Canucks will replace the second line vacated by the departure of the Sedins

Canucks will acquire a top 6 center and it will piss off half the people here.

Tanev won't be traded before TDL

Edler will be extended beyond this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:14 PM ET
My bold prediction is Canucks draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi

Mark it down Manvan
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Does anything Benning do surprise anymore ?

and what do you mean by us ....which one are you? Lol

- Redmile247


You wouldn't believe me if I told you...
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 6 @ 12:17 PM ET
He hadn’t done anything outrageous bad but he can’t make a move that everyone looks at and just accepts ...there’s always questions

Sutter and guddy trades
Hamhuis non deal
Reaching for OJ and taking jv
Signing LE

This is just off the top of my head for scenarios that were looked at as questionable moves at the time

- Redmile247


SHINKUR FOR GRANLUND
2ND FOR SVEN
DRAFT PETERSON
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
My bold prediction is Canucks draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi

Mark it down Manvan

- VANTEL

I thinķ so as well. Need z back up in case EP is better at wing and he can play LW if needed as well. I aldo think Hughes, Bouchard and dobson will be gone by 7
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
I thinķ so as well. Need z back up in case EP is better at wing and he can play LW if needed as well. I aldo think Hughes, Bouchard and dobson will be gone by 7
- Retinalz


I also think that after the 2019 season Tryamkin will return . Even though it will piss some off
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
Things I can promise will and won't happen this year

Top 6 prospect and 165 lb beanpole Pettersson will not be playing shut down against other teams top line with Brandon Sutter


Canucks will replace the second line vacated by the departure of the Sedins

Canucks will acquire a top 6 center and it will piss off half the people here.

Tanev won't be traded before TDL

Edler will be extended beyond this year

- VANTEL

What if Sutter's not on the third line?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:23 PM ET
What if Sutter's not on the third line?
- LeftCoaster


Where will he be?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:28 PM ET
Where will he be?
- VANTEL

KHL hopefully, but what if he's on the fourth line where he spent a lot of last year? Remember, it's the first week of JUNE!
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Jun 6 @ 12:29 PM ET
No....I said you can't call Bennings picks NHL players until they've played a full season. People were saying Gaudette an NHL player because he played five games at the end of the year, that doesn't classify him as a winning draft pick for Benning
- LeftCoaster


Some here wouldn't trade Gaudette for hanifin...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:32 PM ET
KHL hopefully, but what if he's on the fourth line where he spent a lot of last year? Remember, it's the first week of JUNE!
- LeftCoaster


So 5 game Gaudette will get more ice time than Sutter now, and Sutter and his 4 .5 mil contract can play 8 min a night replacing Nick Dowd

Got it.

Come on July
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:34 PM ET
Some here wouldn't trade Gaudette for hanifin...
- Pres.cup

It's just my personal opinion, but I don't think the Canucks should be trading any of their youth for shortcuts. If you wanna trade a Baertschi or Granlund or Motte or even Goldobin sure, they're fringe players.

However, I wouldn't be trying to trade kids like Gaudette for two reasons, 1) because he's youthful and you don't really know what you've got 2) because he's a center.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:35 PM ET
So 5 game Gaudette will get more ice time than Sutter now, and Sutter and his 4 .5 mil contract can play 8 min a night replacing Nick Dowd

Got it.

Come on July

- VANTEL

It's JUNE 5th not September 5th


Edit: I think it's actually June 6th?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
My bold prediction is Canucks draft Jesperi Kotkaniemi

Mark it down Manvan

- VANTEL

Mark me down for the same Manvan
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:36 PM ET
Things I can promise will and won't happen this year

Top 6 prospect and 165 lb beanpole Pettersson will not be playing shut down against other teams top line with Brandon Sutter


Canucks will replace the second line vacated by the departure of the Sedins

Canucks will acquire a top 6 center and it will piss off half the people here.

Tanev won't be traded before TDL

Edler will be extended beyond this year

- VANTEL

And this too
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:37 PM ET
It's just my personal opinion, but I don't think the Canucks should be trading any of their youth for shortcuts. If you wanna trade a Baertschi or Granlund or Motte or even Goldobin sure, they're fringe players.

However, I wouldn't be trying to trade kids like Gaudette for two reasons, 1) because he's youthful and you don't really know what you've got 2) because he's a center.

- LeftCoaster



Yeah he is a Hobey Baker best American College kid . I hope we give him more than 5 games before trading him
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
Mark me down for the same Manvan
- Nucker101


Here is another bold prediction watch out for Palmu in training camp . I bet he scores 3 goals.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
Yeah he is a Hobey Baker best American College kid . I hope we give him more than 5 games before trading him
- VANTEL

Yeah I wanna see what this kid does at training camp, how he shows himself. Although he didn't get any points last year I thought he got better every game.

Winning the Hobey means squat, it's nice, for him, but in NHL terms, I don't know who 80% of the guys who won it are because they're either bit NHL'ers or they didn't make the NHL at all. Just my opinion.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
Gaudette is trying to find his game also . He needs to play with experience too same as EP
- VANTEL

If we're going "very young" this year you can't 100% insulate every single young guy. You have to let some of them grow together.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:44 PM ET
Yeah I wanna see what this kid does at training camp, how he shows himself. Although he didn't get any points last year I thought he got better every game.

Winning the Hobey means squat, it's nice, for him, but in NHL terms, I don't know who 80% of the guys who won it are because they're either bit NHL'ers or they didn't make the NHL at all. Just my opinion.

- LeftCoaster



Year Winner Pos.
2017-18 Adam Gaudette F
2016-17 Will Butcher-* D
2015-16 Jimmy Vesey F
2014-15 Jack Eichel F
2013-14 Johnny Gaudreau F
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 12:48 PM ET
I thinķ so as well. Need z back up in case EP is better at wing and he can play LW if needed as well. I aldo think Hughes, Bouchard and dobson will be gone by 7
- Retinalz

It's not going to happen. If we need a contingency at C that should be drafted next year. Dmen often take much longer to develop. What's the point in strengthening the C position if we still have a gaping hole at D and have no prospects developing there?

It would be ridiculous for the Canucks to draft Kotkaniemi with more valuable players at the defense position still available.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 12:51 PM ET
Year Winner Pos.
2017-18 Adam Gaudette F
2016-17 Will Butcher-* D
2015-16 Jimmy Vesey F
2014-15 Jack Eichel F
2013-14 Johnny Gaudreau F

- VANTEL

Yes I'm aware of the list, my 80% rule still stands.

2003 Peter Sejna
2004 Junior Lessard
2005 Marty Sertich
2006 Matt Carle
2007 Ryan Duncan
2008 Kevin Porter
2009 Matt Gilroy
2010 Blake Geoffrion
2011 Andy Miele
2012 Jack Connolly
2013 Drew LeBlanc
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 12:52 PM ET
It's just my personal opinion, but I don't think the Canucks should be trading any of their youth for shortcuts. If you wanna trade a Baertschi or Granlund or Motte or even Goldobin sure, they're fringe players.

However, I wouldn't be trying to trade kids like Gaudette for two reasons, 1) because he's youthful and you don't really know what you've got 2) because he's a center.

- LeftCoaster

Goldobin's only going to turn 23 in October I'd say that's still pretty youthful
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:53 PM ET
Yes I'm aware of the list, my 80% rule still stands.

2003 Peter Sejna
2004 Junior Lessard
2005 Marty Sertich
2006 Matt Carle
2007 Ryan Duncan
2008 Kevin Porter
2009 Matt Gilroy
2010 Blake Geoffrion
2011 Andy Miele
2012 Jack Connolly
2013 Drew LeBlanc

- LeftCoaster



Back then CHL was the main and only way. Keep up with the times old timer. Things are changing
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