Dobson or Bouchard are not top pairing either.
- VANTEL

You don't know that. I think Dobson will be.

BPA. If he thinks that’s wahlstrom or kotiniemi, I’m all for it. I suspect it will be a dman though.
- neem55

If either of those 2 still there, grab them, and go D heavy rounds 2-4. More picks please....

If either of those 2 still there, grab them, and go D heavy rounds 2-4. More picks please....
- carsonagenic

Amen.

Name me one team that has 4 high end D
- VANTEL

Nashville

I think just from a value standpoint, raising
D men pays off more for rebuilding. AKA what is Hanifan going to fetch, what Larsson got for NJ.... minus Chia factor. You can flog them as needed later for forwards.
- carsonagenic

The secret is drafting the right player.

Example : Segachev NHL body NHL shot in his draft year
Juolevi smaller expected to be high IQ . Lots of faults in his game


From what I have seen this year and I did watch a lot more this year than last is there are a lot of good Dmen in the second round and the drop off from Dobson is not that big

You don't know that. I think Dobson will be.
- CanuckDon

Your future avatar says that you're wrong.

You don't know that. I think Dobson will be.
- CanuckDon

You don't know that either


Wasn't Juolevi suppose to be a top pairing guy?

The secret is drafting the right player.

Example : Segachev NHL body NHL shot in his draft year
Juolevi smaller expected to be high IQ . Lots of faults in his game


From what I have seen this year and I did watch a lot more this year than last is there are a lot of good Dmen in the second round and the drop off from Dobson is not that big
- VANTEL

The drop off from bodqvist to Dobson like defenders is huge though, if everyone reaches their potential, ppg rhd vs steady eddy 30point top 4.
Take the D or wahlstrom.

Nashville
- Pres.cup

They drafted only one of their players in the first round

You don't know that either


Wasn't Juolevi suppose to be a top pairing guy?
- VANTEL

Top 4, 40 point, 10g , Lhd who plays a safe game was his general floor and ceiling.
Safe pick, like Dobson.

You don't know that either


Wasn't Juolevi suppose to be a top pairing guy?
- VANTEL

He still could be. He hasn't even played in the NHL yet.

Also I know he was skinnier but he's actually taller than Sergachev.

They drafted only one of their players in the first round
- VANTEL

Ah, so you meant to ask...
Name me one team with 3 or 4 great defensemen that they've drafted high in the first round. No trades's

The secret is drafting the right player.

Example : Segachev NHL body NHL shot in his draft year
Juolevi smaller expected to be high IQ . Lots of faults in his game


From what I have seen this year and I did watch a lot more this year than last is there are a lot of good Dmen in the second round and the drop off from Dobson is not that big
- VANTEL

I agree on the drop off not looking too big, so when better to go heavy D on picks? Plus, perceived misses on D picks (panicing on development, got to have it now gen.) still hold more value then a forward that doesn't perform in years 1-3 (like Virtanen).

I am listening to Tony G at the moment and his take on prospects . It is one of the best takes ever. He said I refuse to make a prediction . He said pro scouts watch them all year and still screw up a high percentage of the time. He called a lot of the insiders posers lol. He said Bob Mac watches NHL games all year how does he get to scouting them
- VANTEL

He still could be. He hasn't even played in the NHL yet.

Also I know he was skinnier but he's actually taller than Sergachev.
- NorthNuck

Did I say taller or NHL body

Bo has a NHL body and he is only 6'0 220 lbs


Sorry there is nothing that I have seen or heard about OJ to make me think he is a top 2 Dman

They drafted only one of their players in the first round
- VANTEL

Nonsensical argument, players drafted higher generally have a greater chance to reach potential.

Tell me how many of Vegas' Centremen were drafted in the first round by their original teams

Did I say taller or NHL body

Bo has a NHL body and he is only 6'0 220 lbs


Sorry there is nothing that I have seen or heard about OJ to make me think he is a top 2 Dman
- VANTEL

Wait until he has a couple of years in the NHL under his belt before you make that judgement. It's silly to typecast him this early

Ah, so you meant to ask...
Name me one team with 3 or 4 great defensemen that they've drafted high in the first round. No trades's
- Pres.cup

The general discussion in here today seems to be you have to draft your first round pick to secure a top Dman so yeah

I agree on the drop off not looking too big, so when better to go heavy D on picks? Plus, perceived misses on D picks (panicing on development, got to have it now gen.) still hold more value then a forward that doesn't perform in years 1-3 (like Virtanen).
- carsonagenic

The general discussion in here today seems to be you have to draft your first round pick to secure a top Dman so yeah
- VANTEL

I don't think you have to. I think it gives you the best chance of getting one.

Wait until he has a couple of years in the NHL under his belt before you make that judgement. It's silly to typecast him this early
- NorthNuck

It is equally as silly to typecast him as a top 2 Dman without having an NHL game under his belt.

I don't think you have to. I think it gives you the best chance of getting one.
- NorthNuck

BPA first pick, more positional as middle rounds go on, swing for talent with flaws later rounds.

You think Hughes makes it to #7?

Nonsensical argument, players drafted higher generally have a greater chance to reach potential.

Tell me how many of Vegas' Centremen were drafted in the first round by their original teams
- NorthNuck

This statement is so wrong . If that was the case 90 % of all Dmen would be first round picks instead of the other way around

You think Hughes makes it to #7?
- LeftCoaster

If Hughes or Wahlstrom is available you need to take them.