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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:40 AM ET
We can call up Chaput and no assets given up
- VANTEL

Right in his prime. He's only going to get better.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 7:46 AM ET
For my birthday today, all I wish for is that JB is able to get another 2nd and another 3rd round pick for the draft in 17 days.

I feel that i'm not asking for much.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 8:01 AM ET
This team is not getting better via trades. Sucking and hopefully adding draft picks should be next years plan.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I have no idea what they are doing nor am I suggesting they should do.

Jim has come out and said he needs a center for Petterson and has said he would like to get a Dman.

These are two top insiders that have made statements a week apart on what they heard about Canucks. We are just in here having fun playing detective.

I really dislike a lot of Canucks spare parts and don't mind if they try to upgrade but am not pushing for it.

I like Sutter but he is clearly not a top 6 center to play with Petterson.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 8:06 AM ET
Same page.

Sutter, Granlund and Hutton for ROR plus Moulson. Capspace move for Buffalo, plus adds some depth.

or

Tanev for ROR

- dbot

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 8:09 AM ET
What if the plan is

Sutter OJ for ROR?

Hanifin for the 7 th?


There is your center and NHL young Dman


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 8:53 AM ET
What if the plan is

Sutter OJ for ROR?

Hanifin for the 7 th?


There is your center and NHL young Dman

- VANTEL


Would do both those deals.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 5 @ 9:11 AM ET
What if the plan is

Sutter OJ for ROR?

Hanifin for the 7 th?


There is your center and NHL young Dman

- VANTEL

Then you’re losing some good future to be better now which isn’t ideal to me. Neither of those players get us into the playoffs. I don’t like ROR’s attitude.
Brooks_Light
Joined: 08.13.2015

Jun 5 @ 9:13 AM ET
What if the plan is

Sutter OJ for ROR?

Hanifin for the 7 th?


There is your center and NHL young Dman

- VANTEL


It doesn't make sense - why give up our top rated D prospect and the 7th (which could very well be a high end D) as well for Hannifin - OJ & 7th could up both being better than Hannifin. Friedman said he believes the Canes new GM is putting out feelers on 90% of his players just to understand their value and that makes sense to me.
I wanna keep the picks we have, hopefully acquire a few more before the draft and continue to stick with and have faith in our prospects.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 5 @ 9:28 AM ET
Then you’re losing some good future to be better now which isn’t ideal to me. Neither of those players get us into the playoffs. I don’t like ROR’s attitude.
- thundachunk

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 5 @ 9:35 AM ET
What if the plan is

Sutter OJ 2nd for ROR 3rd?

Hanifin 2nd (20119) for the 7 th and 3rd?


There is your center and NHL young Dman

- VANTEL


Sounds like Benning moves but you forgot to add the 2nd round picks...

Seriously though ROR makes no sense if the are planning on playing EP at center. They need a 1 year stop gap not a 3 year 7.5 million anchor.
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 5 @ 9:39 AM ET
I'm keeping OJ. He's gonna be fine. He just probably won't be a 1-2. It won't be immediate either. But he'll be a top 4. At best he will be a 2. very possible. but will take some time.

i'm all over the map.

DON'T TRADE PROSPECTS. HOARD THEM.

I want Tanev paired with OJ this year. If someone overpays for Tanev, then move him at TDL.

- storm88


You are correct Sir!
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 5 @ 9:41 AM ET
Cumberland is dangerous.
- Marwood

Only to roaches
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 5 @ 9:43 AM ET
I went to Deep Bay a couple times a year when i was a kid. My Grandparents had a trailer down there. Memories.... We were just down there 2 summers ago for my Dad's 70th.
- storm88

I lived in Surrey for 30 years, and spent lots of summer weekends at Deep Bay as well... we must have met at some point
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 9:46 AM ET
It doesn't make sense - why give up our top rated D prospect and the 7th (which could very well be a high end D) as well for Hannifin - OJ & 7th could up both being better than Hannifin. Friedman said he believes the Canes new GM is putting out feelers on 90% of his players just to understand their value and that makes sense to me.
I wanna keep the picks we have, hopefully acquire a few more before the draft and continue to stick with and have faith in our prospects.

- Brooks_Light


I know OJ is 20 but I haven't seen any indication yet of "High End" . We will see
carsonagenic
Vancouver Canucks
Location: AB
Joined: 03.08.2006

Jun 5 @ 9:50 AM ET
I know OJ is 20 but I haven't seen any indication yet of "High End" . We will see
- VANTEL

My guess is solid 3-4 with upside. Matty Ohlund clone would be great.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 9:53 AM ET
My guess is solid 3-4 with upside. Matty Ohlund clone would be great.
- carsonagenic

I would love another Ohlund. I just don't see it personally . I do see him as a number 4 though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:05 AM ET
Sounds like Benning moves but you forgot to add the 2nd round picks...

Seriously though ROR makes no sense if the are planning on playing EP at center. They need a 1 year stop gap not a 3 year 7.5 million anchor.

- belcherbd



That's fine , but if it is the case I would rather Pettersson stayed in Sweden instead of being teamed up with Bozak and Baertschi
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 10:12 AM ET
I would love another Ohlund. I just don't see it personally . I do see him as a number 4 though.
- VANTEL

Gunnarsson.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
1st trade = Too much from Vancouver IMO.

2nd option - would really depend on the prospect.
Not big on Reinhardt

- dbot


I actually doubt buffalo would do the first trade ...
BobBot
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.17.2017

Jun 5 @ 10:29 AM ET
Sounds like Benning moves but you forgot to add the 2nd round picks...

Seriously though ROR makes no sense if the are planning on playing EP at center. They need a 1 year stop gap not a 3 year 7.5 million anchor.

- belcherbd


EP, Bo, ROR through the middle could be championship calibre at some point? is that a question they're asking?

im ok if we lose oj and keep tanev to bring oreilly in (banking on sutter going). would maybe add a token prospect or pick

id overpay a bit on hanifin to keep demko and dahlen (and i'd think hard on gaudette), but they can take whoever else


means the rebuild is pretty much over, but could be fun? going to bank on hitting on a few draft picks, or maybe some lotto luck, for the next couple of years when we're on the bubble, then have a run at some big name FA to supplement


i dunno
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
EP, Bo, ROR through the middle could be championship calibre at some point? is that a question they're asking?

im ok if we lose oj and keep tanev to bring oreilly in (banking on sutter going). would maybe add a token prospect or pick

id overpay a bit on hanifin to keep demko and dahlen (and i'd think hard on gaudette), but they can take whoever else


means the rebuild is pretty much over, but could be fun? going to bank on hitting on a few draft picks, or maybe some lotto luck, for the next couple of years when we're on the bubble, then have a run at some big name FA to supplement


i dunno

- BobBot

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:36 AM ET
EP, Bo, ROR through the middle could be championship calibre at some point? is that a question they're asking?

im ok if we lose oj and keep tanev to bring oreilly in (banking on sutter going). would maybe add a token prospect or pick

id overpay a bit on hanifin to keep demko and dahlen (and i'd think hard on gaudette), but they can take whoever else


means the rebuild is pretty much over, but could be fun? going to bank on hitting on a few draft picks, or maybe some lotto luck, for the next couple of years when we're on the bubble, then have a run at some big name FA to supplement


i dunno

- BobBot


Another solution is take the best Center in this draft . The D can stop gap the next 3 years as is. Run with the same crap forwards and collect another high pick next year. Draft a Dman in the second and third
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:44 AM ET
Another solution is take the best Center in this draft . The D can stop gap the next 3 years as is. Run with the same crap forwards and collect another high pick next year. Draft a Dman in the second and third
- VANTEL

Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
Another solution is take the best Center in this draft . The D can stop gap the next 3 years as is. Run with the same crap forwards and collect another high pick next year. Draft a Dman in the second and third
- VANTEL


Excluding players like Tkachuk and Wahlstrohm, who are probably more suited as wingers, the top centres, Kotkaniemi, Veleno and Hayton are in the 9 -14 pick range....are you suggesting trade down.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:46 AM ET
The Caps are a perfect example of how we need to be patient. They have been a dominant force in the league almost since ovi entered and this will likely be their first cup.
- Retinalz

Still funny to me that Trotz started Grubauer in games 1&2 vs. CBJ
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