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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:46 PM ET
THis is absurd. How do you compare Dobson and miller, McIssac etc. Why are they the same? What particular traits ensure Dobson has a 3 ceiling?
- CanuckDon


Is there a chance Dobsons numbers were high playing in the QMHL?

Miller and McIssac play a better defensive game. We could go on hours and hours debating . I have watched enough Dobson this year myself to have my own opinion that he is not a top two .
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:47 PM ET
Personally I'm okay with moving or keeping Sutter. He's a little overpaid but I like what he brings to the table as a checking center. If we moved him it would just create a bigger hole at a position we aren't strong in.

If anyone is to be traded, I am hoping it's Tanev and Baertschi

- 93Nucks

Agreed, trade from a position of strength (the wing). We need Sutter for another year or until Gaudette and EP can prove they can play center
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 3:49 PM ET
Is there a chance Dobsons numbers were high playing in the QMHL?

Miller and McIssac play a better defensive game. We could go on hours and hours debating . I have watched enough Dobson this year myself to have my own opinion that he is not a top two .

- VANTEL

What about Bouchards numbers then? Point is if they're ranked that highly it's for a reason. Anyone can say that a Dman drafted in the 2nd round will be just as good but past history favours high draft picks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:51 PM ET
What about Bouchards numbers then?
- NorthNuck



Haven't seen enough Bouchard just two games and video but the games I did see he looked similar to Dobson but better defensively
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:52 PM ET
Is there a chance Dobsons numbers were high playing in the QMHL?

Miller and McIssac play a better defensive game. We could go on hours and hours debating . I have watched enough Dobson this year myself to have my own opinion that he is not a top two .

- VANTEL

How did Dobson produce against the teams from the O and W? 7 points in 4 games and 17 shots. 3rd overall in scoring as a D. McIssaic is worse defensively and offensively. miller is decent but their is a reason he projected to go in the early 2nd round. He has size, skating and a great 2-way game. I haven’t heard one reason that limits him to being a second pair dman

Edit. I know you watched him play a game in the memorial cup were he had a few defensive miscues but he is regarded as being very solid in his own end
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 3:56 PM ET
How did Dobson produce against the teams from the O and W? 7 points in 4 games and 17 shots. 3rd overall in scoring as a D. McIssaic is worse defensively and offensively. miller is decent but their is a reason he projected to go in the early 2nd round. He has size, skating and a great 2-way game. I haven’t heard one reason that limits him to being a second pair dman
- CanuckDon


3 points one game against a bad team with one open net goal , a shot and a rebound that the terrible goalie should have hung onto and the forward knocked in.

He had about 4 nice points including the OT winner set up.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 3:58 PM ET
3 points one game against a bad team with one open net goal , a shot and a rebound that the terrible goalie should have hung onto and the forward knocked in.

He had about 4 nice points including the OT winner set up.

- VANTEL

Isn’t 4 points in your D season in the memorial cup good (assuming we eliminate the other 3 for some reason)? I mean the number two defensive scorer is two years older
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 4:04 PM ET
Isn’t 4 points in your D season in the memorial cup good (assuming we eliminate the other 3 for some reason)? I mean the number two defensive scorer is two years older
- CanuckDon


With the Knights advancing to the 2016 Memorial Cup, Juolevi recorded seven assists in four games and was named to the tournament's All-Star Team, helping London to a national championship.[1]
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:07 PM ET
With the Knights advancing to the 2016 Memorial Cup, Juolevi recorded seven assists in four games and was named to the tournament's All-Star Team, helping London to a national championship.
- VANTEL[1]

One of the best junior teams in a long long time. No goals? Pretty disappointing. Dobson outproduced Juolevi on a worse team
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 4:11 PM ET
One of the best junior teams in a long long time. No goals? Pretty disappointing. Dobson outproduced Juolevi on a worse team
- CanuckDon



You can use the Mem Cup as your back up to success but remember Cassels had a fabulous Mem cup too
pker2theend
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Pamela Anderson Lee released a
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 6 @ 4:12 PM ET
Zadina at 7 lol
- CanuckDon

Forsberg at 11 lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
You can use the Mem Cup as your back up to success but remember Cassels had a fabulous Mem cup too
- VANTEL

I’m using his performance in the Q for my ranking I’m merely pointing out that the QOC argument takes a hit when you look at his Mem Cup stats. Cassels wasn’t in his draft season and I watched his breakout playoffs and said on here many times that he would never sniff the NHL. I like Dobson because outside of Rasmus I think he has the best shot at being a #1. Something this franchise needs more than a center or a winger
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:17 PM ET
Forsberg at 11 lol
- pker2theend

You think they are similar players? Similar production? Or GMs will make a similar mistake with him? Or you don’t like Zadina? It would be a miracle and a game changer for the Nucks
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 4:21 PM ET
I’m using his performance in the Q for my ranking I’m merely pointing out that the QOC argument takes a hit when you look at his Mem Cup stats. Cassels wasn’t in his draft season and I watched his breakout playoffs and said on here many times that he would never sniff the NHL. I like Dobson because outside of Rasmus I think he has the best shot at being a #1. Something this franchise needs more than a center or a winger
- CanuckDon



Benning has come out and openly said we are looking for a center . I imagine it had more to do with the hole left by Hank and not the one left by Dowd. Even in the draft talks they were talking about some forward . I imagine it was about JK o another center.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:24 PM ET
Benning has come out and openly said we are looking for a center . I imagine it had more to do with the hole left by Hank and not the one left by Dowd. Even in the draft talks they were talking about some forward . I imagine it was about JK o another center.
- VANTEL

Hey I think they want Dobson the most but if you are right I won’t complain. Only player I hate in the top 10 is presidents guy. It’s a weird draft with no consensus outside of the top 2
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
Hey I think they want Dobson the most but if you are right I won’t complain. Only player I hate in the top 10 is presidents guy. It’s a weird draft with no consensus outside of the top 2
- CanuckDon



I will be happy too
Carol Schram
Joined: 09.27.2013

Jun 6 @ 4:41 PM ET
let us dream
- Nucker101


Indeed. On top of his mad skillz, I have been really impressed with the interviews I've heard with Zadina. He's sharp and seems to have his priorities in order.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Jun 6 @ 4:44 PM ET
https://canucksarmy.com/2018/05/06/canucks-army-year-in-review-troy-stecher-2/

Stecher performs at a middle pairing level most nights. He is certainly better than Pouliot.

- NorthNuck


PK stats are top 10 in the league. Stetcher isnt a well rounded dman but he does excel at something at least.

Now Makita will respond how people think Stetcher is the best dman in the league after I said that....again.


That's blind hate for you.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
PK stats are top 10 in the league. Stetcher isnt a well rounded dman but he does excel at something at least.

Now Makita will respond how people think Stetcher is the best dman in the league after I said that....again.


That's blind hate for you.

- boonerbuck

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 4:55 PM ET
Hey I think they want Dobson the most but if you are right I won’t complain. Only player I hate in the top 10 is presidents guy. It’s a weird draft with no consensus outside of the top 2
- CanuckDon

I trust whatever decision JB makes, him and the scouting staff seem to really know what they are doing. I just happen to think they'll select a Dman. Unless Wahlstrom is available of course.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 6 @ 4:59 PM ET
I trust whatever decision JB makes, him and the scouting staff seem to really know what they are doing. I just happen to think they'll select a Dman. Unless Wahlstrom is available.
- NorthNuck

We are getting Zadina to play with Dahlen and EP

Baer - Horvat - Boeser
dahlen - EP - Zadina
Lind - Gaudette - virt
Scrub - Sutter - scrub

Cup winning team in 2020
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 6 @ 5:00 PM ET
We are getting Zadina to play with Dahlen and EP

Baer - Horvat - Boeser
dahlen - EP - Zadina
Lind - Gaudette - virt
Scrub - Sutter - scrub

Cup winning team in 2020

- CanuckDon

I'm glad SOMEone has a very good clear vision of this teams future
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 6 @ 5:21 PM ET
Thank you Carol!
Nice piece on Mr. Ashbridge, I'm sorry that you lost a colleague and mentor.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 6 @ 5:41 PM ET
PK stats are top 10 in the league. Stetcher isnt a well rounded dman but he does excel at something at least.

Now Makita will respond how people think Stetcher is the best dman in the league after I said that....again.


That's blind hate for you.

- boonerbuck

Bit of a twisted comment, but whatever makes you feel good.

I'm not a fan, really wish he was developed properly, Canucks fault not Stechers. No blind hate, just not a fan, but carry on carrying on... ya man.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 6 @ 5:43 PM ET
Calgary and Sabres Discuss O'Reilly for Hamilton (e4) Isles. Buzzcast

I love it when Red comes in here and laughs at the Canucks
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